Chocolate is the new black; Brooklyn still in the league? (1934)

[Wilson Gray]

On May 19, 2005, at 1:02 AM, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:

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> CHOCOLATE IS THE NEW BLACK
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> I just saw this at the Godiva chocolate store. The saying has been
> around a
> while.
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I recall a fashion-advertising slogan from the '50's which stated that
"Black is the ace of shades." It was rather weird, given that "shades"
and "fades" are BVE slang terms for black people and white people,
resp.

-Wilson



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> BROOKLYN STILL IN THE LEAGUE?
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> Here's the exact quote. Actually many newspapers completely ignored
> the  line
> on that day.
> ...]
> 25 January 1934, New York Herald Tribune, pg. 19, col. 4:]
> _Terry Predicts_
> _Giants Finish_
> _Among First 3_
> (...)
> "Pittsburgh, St. Louis and Chicago will be the teams we'll have to
> beat,"
> Terry said. I don't think the Braves will do as well as they did last
> year."
> ...
> "Do you fear the Dodgers?" he was asked.
> ...
> "I was just wondering," said Terry, "whether they were still in the
> league."
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> ...
> 25 January 1934, New York Daily News, pg. 45, col. 2:
> The Dodgers? Will they give trouble? Mr. Terry grinned. He said he
> hadn't
> heard much about that outfit in a long while and he wondered whether
> they're
> still in the league.
> ...
> ...
> 25 January 1934, New York Evening Post, "Quinn Rebukes Terry for Slap
> at
> Dodgers," pg. 15, col. 3:
> Colonel William Terry, young manager of the world champion Giants,
> seems to
> have awakened the Dodgers, club and fans alike, from their long winter
> hibernation. And the Dodgers have awakened like a hungry bear,
> demanding to know
> just what Memphis Bill meant by his uncomplimentary remark about the
> Dodgers
> still being in the league.
> ...
> In a gabfest yesterday with baseball writers, Terry was asked (Col. 4
> -  ed.)
> if he feared the Dodgers. His whimsical reply was: "I was just
> wondering
> whether they were still in the league."
> ...
> If Bill thought this would go unchallenged in Brooklyn, he was guessing
> wrong, for Bob Quinn, business manager of the Brooklyn club, has
> countered with  a
> stinging rebuke.
> ...
> When apprised of Terry's remark, Bob said: "I doubt very much if Terry
> made
> that remark (Col. 5 - ed.)  but if he did, it ill befits a manager of a
> championship ball club, particularly a manager who was so thin-skinned
> himself
> that he was very much perturbed about writers picking his team to
> finish last in
> 1933.
> ...
> "And the Brooklyn club may fool Mr. Terry by being the team to prevent
> him
> from repeating his triumph of last year. At least, we'll let him know
> we are
> still in the league."  NASH.
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> 26 January 1934, New York Daily News, pg .34, cols. 1-2 headline:
> _Yep, Dodgers Are Still in League!_
> (Also, in another edition - ed.)
> _The Dodgers? Oh Yes, They're_
> _Still in League, Mr. Terry_
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> 26 January 1934, New York Evening Post, pg. 14, col. 3:
> It is amusing how quickly a Brooklynite can be aroused by a slur
> against  the
> Dodgers. Terry happened to remark, "I was just wondering whether they
> were
> still in the league."
>