jump = copulate with?

[neil]

on 11/17/05 2:47 AM, Wilson Gray at hwgray at GMAIL.COM wrote:

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> What we have here is a failure to communicate because of a dialect split.
> For me, "he jumped her" has only the reading, "he attacked her, most likely
> from behind or by some other means of ambush." From a "jump" - with
> reference to rhythm - blues:

Couple of citations for you, Wilson:

Π if he goes and jumps his daughters, he desecrates the marriage and
family.¹ ­S. Kirson Weinberg, Indecent Behaviour, Citadel Press, NY, 1955,
220

³McGee, don¹t try to kid me and don¹t try to kid yourself. I¹m not
interested in your rationalisations. It was handy and you jumped it. Right?²
­John D. MacDonald, The Long Lavender Look, Pan Books, London, 1973, 95

And one citing role reversal:

³And now the command is you either ball men or broads ­ but you make the
decision. They don¹t jump you. You jump them. That is the big lib in Women¹s
Lib.² ­Richard Condon, The Vertical Smile, Weidenfeld and Nicholson, London,
1972, 170

--Neil Crawford

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> Dog jumped a rabbit
> And he [the rabbit] hid behind a stump
> Dog jumped a rabbit
> And his [the rabbit's] heart went bumpity-bump.
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> "Rams *jump* sheep"? Who knew? ;-) I'm not familiar with that usage at all,
> though I have seen roosters literally jump *on* hens in order to copulate
> with them. It looks like we're two ships passing in the night, with repect
> to non-literal uses of "jump."
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> -Wilson
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> On 11/16/05, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>> But aren't "he jumped her" and "he copulated with her" equivalent,
>> because "jump" can be transitive and copulate only intransitive? In
>> any case, the quote I (almost) have is about rams who "jump ... sheep".
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>> Joel
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>> At 11/16/2005 05:12 PM, you wrote:
>>> Oops! I nearly missed your point. I mean only that "jump" can mean
>>> "copulate," but not "copulate with," because you'd have to say "jump
>> with,"
>>> if "copulate with" was meant.
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>>> -Wilson
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