jump = copulate with?

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 17 22:41:54 UTC 2005


Dag-gee! Y'all surely do speak and write a dialect distinct from my
idiolect. FWIW, "jump" can also mean "dance." The song, "Bacon Fat" - and I
refer to the original version from ca.1960 and not the more recent covers by
rock groups - defines the "bacon fat" as:

A new kind of *jump*
Where you turn around three times
And end up with a bump

Further FWIW: in Russian, the word for "jump" also means "dance," in
reference to folk dancing. "Tantsovat'" is used for other kinds of dancing.

-Wilson



On 11/17/05, neil <neil at typog.co.uk> wrote:
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> on 11/17/05 2:47 AM, Wilson Gray at hwgray at GMAIL.COM wrote:
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> > What we have here is a failure to communicate because of a dialect
> split.
> > For me, "he jumped her" has only the reading, "he attacked her, most
> likely
> > from behind or by some other means of ambush." From a "jump" - with
> > reference to rhythm - blues:
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> Couple of citations for you, Wilson:
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> Πif he goes and jumps his daughters, he desecrates the marriage and
> family.¹ ­S. Kirson Weinberg, Indecent Behaviour, Citadel Press, NY, 1955,
> 220
>
> ³McGee, don¹t try to kid me and don¹t try to kid yourself. I¹m not
> interested in your rationalisations. It was handy and you jumped it.
> Right?²
> ­John D. MacDonald, The Long Lavender Look, Pan Books, London, 1973, 95
>
> And one citing role reversal:
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> ³And now the command is you either ball men or broads ­ but you make the
> decision. They don¹t jump you. You jump them. That is the big lib in
> Women¹s
> Lib.² ­Richard Condon, The Vertical Smile, Weidenfeld and Nicholson,
> London,
> 1972, 170
>
> --Neil Crawford
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> >
> > Dog jumped a rabbit
> > And he [the rabbit] hid behind a stump
> > Dog jumped a rabbit
> > And his [the rabbit's] heart went bumpity-bump.
> >
> > "Rams *jump* sheep"? Who knew? ;-) I'm not familiar with that usage at
> all,
> > though I have seen roosters literally jump *on* hens in order to
> copulate
> > with them. It looks like we're two ships passing in the night, with
> repect
> > to non-literal uses of "jump."
> >
> > -Wilson
> >
> > On 11/16/05, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> >> But aren't "he jumped her" and "he copulated with her" equivalent,
> >> because "jump" can be transitive and copulate only intransitive? In
> >> any case, the quote I (almost) have is about rams who "jump ... sheep".
> >>
> >> Joel
> >>
> >> At 11/16/2005 05:12 PM, you wrote:
> >>> Oops! I nearly missed your point. I mean only that "jump" can mean
> >>> "copulate," but not "copulate with," because you'd have to say "jump
> >> with,"
> >>> if "copulate with" was meant.
> >>>
> >>> -Wilson
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> > --
> > -Wilson Gray
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