ADS-L Digest - 20 Aug 2006 to 21 Aug 2006 (#2006-233)

Tue Aug 22 14:34:25 UTC 2006

I didn't quite have the nerve to be the first to point that out,
Geoff. But, now that you have, I agree with you. My authorities are
Weinreich's _College Yiddish_ and Morris Halle, pc.

-Wilson

On 8/22/06, Geoff Nathan <geoffnathan at wayne.edu> wrote:
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> Mark wrote:<br>
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> "Mark A. Mandel" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mamandel at LDC.UPENN.EDU"><mamandel at LDC.UPENN.EDU></a></td>
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> My wife emailed me today:
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> I'm waiting for a call back from my cousin, who is far too vague about
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> things: we need to pin them down. As in, "We could put a shelf in her
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> I've seen lots of spellings for /'tSatSki/: tchotchke I think is the
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> that comes most readily to me. But never a Spanish one before. And
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> My wife is not Spanish/Hispanic and does not speak Spanish. OTOH, like
> me,
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> she grew up in NYC where you see an awful lot of Spanish, and she's not
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> Mark, you do realize you've stepped in a minefield by giving the basic
> pronunciation /tSatSki/ rather than /tSatSk@/.  On other forums (those
> devoted to Yiddish language) folks get EXTREMELY exercised over this
> issue (the final /i/ is considered an American barbarism), and even
> linguists seem to feel this way (at least those who are also native
> speakers of Yiddish).<br>
> Just a word to the wise...<br>
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> Geoff<br>
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> Geoffrey S. Nathan
> Department of English/Computing and Information Technology
> Wayne State University
> Detroit, MI, 48202
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