"substitute by" = "replace with"
Wilson Gray
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Mon Aug 28 20:26:16 UTC 2006
Isn't this perhaps influenced somewhat by loan translation? Cf. German
substituieren "X" durch "Y" = substitute "Y" for "X" and not ... "X" for "Y"
It's a well-known _faux ami_ that occurs in many Continental
languages. Well, in the few that I can read, at least. :-)
-Wilson
On 8/28/06, Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at csli.stanford.edu> wrote:
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> On Aug 28, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Jon Lighter wrote:
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> > Here's a Ph.D.-level ex. of this usage :
> >
> > 1982 Allan Rodway _The Craft of Criticism_ (Cambridge: C.U.P.)
> > 70 : But the revision seems to substitute one kind of flaw by another.
> >
> > OED uncharacteristically goes out of its way to call a related
> > construction "incorrect," not once but twice (_substitute_, v., 4a,
> > 4b). But none of its exx. are quite as odd as the above.
> >
> > BTW, Prof. Rodway's book provides a splendid explication of pre-
> > deconstructive literary criticism.
>
> this is an example of the usage that's been around for some time and
> with some frequency (it's even in MWDEU), what i called innovative
> "substitute" in my earlier postings on the subject:
>
> original: substitute NEW for OLD
> innovative: substitute OLD by/with NEW
> reversed: substitute OLD for NEW
>
> reversed "substitute" is the real stunner. pretty recent, and only
> recently working its way into north america.
>
> arnold
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