Fake Latin plural . . .

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri May 19 21:10:57 UTC 2006


A bit of history for those who were still only a smile on the face of their
(grand)fathers during the relevant time period.

In the spring of 1955, I attended the Third(?) Annual Rhythm-and-Blues Show,
a kind of traveling circus of mainly-black (that year's headliner was
gag-me-with-a-spoon Bill Haley, one of several white men who invented
the term, "rock-and-roll," and the Comets)
talent.

The show's closer was a stand-up - well, sit-on-a-high-stool - comedian
named Shelly Berman, now the late-great. Part of Berman's shtik was a bit in
which he made fun of random oddities of the English language, among these
oddities being the formation of plurals. One of his examples was exactly and
specifically the singular-plural pair, "Stewardess, stewardi."

I found Berman to be so funny that I bought and still own his LP, as far as
I know, the only one that he ever recorded. He eventually turned up again as
a character actor on TV and in the movies.

BTW, it took me perhaps twenty years to get the point of "stewardess,
stewardi," since it was in no way clear to me how even the most
ignorant of speakers of English
could possibly conclude that the singular of a specifically-feminine
English word was pluralized by
using the anglicized version of a specifically-masculine Latin plural
ending. (I eventually understood that "stewardess" was meant to be
heard as "stewardus."
It still doesn't strike me as funny.) It was
the rest of his shtik that had me ROTFLMAO.

-Wilson

-Wilson

On 5/19/06, Barnhart <barnhart at highlands.com> wrote:
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> Stewardae is a similar confusion with stewardus for stewardess.
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> Regards,
> David
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> barnhart at highlands.com
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> >On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 03:48:36PM +0100, Chris F. Waigl wrote:
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> >> I had to make an effort the other day to remain silent when someone
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> >> up with "linii" (context: installing two different
> >flavours of them side
> >> by side).
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> >Really. Any idiot knows it's "linices".
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> >Jesse Sheidlower
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