English in USA

[Paul A Johnston, Jr.]

No way in NJ--which part are you speaking about?  I'm from Morris County and it's /I/ before eng consistently.  Same throughout the Northeastern or North Central part of the state.  The South is a "Midland" area, but that sort of raising doesn't sound right to me.  I don't know about places like Phillipsburg or Hunterdon County, where you begin to shade into an Allentown-Bethlehem kind of system.

Paul Johnston

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From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: English in USA

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> I've lived in NJ for many years.  It's ~eeng and ~eenk there as
> well as all
> over.  The thing is the "ing" is the site spelling of ~eeng, so
> folks write
> ingland for England.
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> >Here in New Jersey, I definitely hear the "short i" in the first
> syllable>of
> >"English."
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> >I seem to recall a similar issue came up on Lingust List a while
> back.>
> >Paraphrasing liberally from my imperfect memory:
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> >A teacher wrote in to say, "Here's an odd thing, my students have
> 'short i'
> >instead of 'ee' in 'English.'  Is this some regional dialect
> feature or
> >what?"
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> >A whole bunch of people replied, saying, "No, YOU'RE the one with the
> >regional dialect feature.  Your students' 'short i' is the
> >normal/general/typical
> >pronunciation in the US."
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> >Doug
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