English in USA

[Tom Zurinskas]

Thanks Paul,

I hate to be a doubteeng thomas.  You may be right, but I don't theenk so.
Or as they say down south "You may be rot, but ah don't thank so."

I lived near Atlantic City NJ for many years.  Worked as a research
psychologist some years.  Witnessed some interesting research on the
analysis of speech as a workload indicator in ATC.  Didn't work.

~Taam

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.





>From: "Paul A Johnston, Jr." <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU>
>Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: English in USA
>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:22:56 -0500
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>No way in NJ--which part are you speaking about?  I'm from Morris County
>and it's /I/ before eng consistently.  Same throughout the Northeastern or
>North Central part of the state.  The South is a "Midland" area, but that
>sort of raising doesn't sound right to me.  I don't know about places like
>Phillipsburg or Hunterdon County, where you begin to shade into an
>Allentown-Bethlehem kind of system.
>
>Paul Johnston
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
>Date: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:02 pm
>Subject: Re: English in USA
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> > I've lived in NJ for many years.  It's ~eeng and ~eenk there as
> > well as all
> > over.  The thing is the "ing" is the site spelling of ~eeng, so
> > folks write
> > ingland for England.
> >
> > Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
> > See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Douglas Dee <AmateurLinguist at AOL.COM>
> > >Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: English in USA
> > >Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:35:49 EST
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> > >Here in New Jersey, I definitely hear the "short i" in the first
> > syllable>of
> > >"English."
> > >
> > >I seem to recall a similar issue came up on Lingust List a while
> > back.>
> > >Paraphrasing liberally from my imperfect memory:
> > >
> > >A teacher wrote in to say, "Here's an odd thing, my students have
> > 'short i'
> > >instead of 'ee' in 'English.'  Is this some regional dialect
> > feature or
> > >what?"
> > >
> > >A whole bunch of people replied, saying, "No, YOU'RE the one with the
> > >regional dialect feature.  Your students' 'short i' is the
> > >normal/general/typical
> > >pronunciation in the US."
> > >
> > >Doug
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