"pellow" and "melk"

Sat Nov 25 04:33:07 UTC 2006

Thank you for revealing your incomplete understanding of the matter, LOL.

Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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> On Egyption Phonetics - hieroglyphs were really letters
> from
> http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/hieroglyphics/rosettastone.html
>
> The earliest translation of the Greek text on the Rosetta Stone into English
> was done by Reverend Stephen Weston in London in April 1802 before the
> Society of Antiquaries . About this time, both deSacy and Thomas Young,
> attempted to decipher the hieroglyphics on the Rosetta Stone. Young was
> successful in determining that foreign names could not be represented by
> symbols because symbols are based upon the words used in a given language.
> Thus, foreign names had to be spelled phonetically. In hieroglyphics there
> are groups of symbols that are separated from other symbols. These encircled
> inscriptions are called cartouches. Thomas Young determined that the
> cartouches were proper names of people who were not Egyptian like the names
> of Ptolemy and Alexander which in Greek were Ptolemaios and Alexandrus. He
> successfully deciphered 5 cartouches. His publication on this matter was far
> reaching.
>
> At this point there is involvement by a young French historian and linguist
> named Jean-Fracois Champollion. Champollion had mastered many Eastern
> languages. In 1807, Champollion went to study for two years with noted
> French linguist Francois Antoine-Isaac Silvestre deSacy. Later in his
> career, Champollion had compiled a Coptic dictionary and read Thomas Young
> in 1819. Looking at Young’s writing on the subject of hieroglyphics, he
> realized that what Young had actually proven was that all of hieroglyphics
> were phonetic, not just those hieroglyphics that were contained within the
> cartouches. Utilizing hieroglyphics from an estate at Kingston Lacey in
> Britain, Champollion correctly identified the names of Cleopatra and
> Alexandrus and verified Ptolemeus which had previously been identified by
> Young He published his results and continued his research. In 1822 new
> inscriptions from a temple at Abu Simbel on the Nile were introduced into
> Europe and Champollion had correctly identified the name of the pharaoh who
> had built the temple. That name was ‘Ramses.’ Utilizing his knowledge of
> Coptic he continued to successfully translate the hieroglyphics opening up
> an understanding of the Ancient Egyptians.
>
> You can download hieroglyphics phonetic font at
> http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=400609
>
> I'll defer to Mr Barrett on spelling and grammar.  But he misspells
> truespel.  According to his logic, how can he get anything right?  That
> doesn't follow.
>
> A new Egyption word is ~kaarttuesh (encircled names).  That's spelled in
> truespel as I heard it (double consonant shows stress on second syllable).
> I did not know how to spell it in tradspel until I looked it up - cartouch
> or cartouche (I see it both ways).
>
> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
> See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.
>
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>> From: Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
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>> Subject: Re: "pellow" and "melk"
>> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:27:40 -0800
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>> The claim that hieroglyphics in general merely represent sounds is of
>> course the result of not grasping the entire story perhaps as a result
>> of changing the channel before finishing the program.
>>
>> BTW, are spelling "later" as "latter", using "about" after the verb
>> "saw", inconsistent capitalization, and spelling "prove" as "proove"
>> ways to encourage truspel?
>>
>> Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>>> No joke.  Saw about deciphering Egyption writing on the history channel
>>>
>> a
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>>> few days ago.  Basically the frenchman had the theory that the signs
>>>
>> stood
>>
>>> for sounds and tried for 20 years to proove it.  One day he got it and
>>>
>> went
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>>> to his brother and collapsed on the floor.  Came to a few days latter
>>>
>> and
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>>> showed  his findings.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
>>> See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.
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>>>> From: "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb at UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
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>>>> Subject:      Re: "pellow" and "melk"
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>>>>> The alphabetical principle holds that letters stand for sounds.  We
>>>>>
>> find
>>
>>>> now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> that even Egyption hieroglyphic symbols stand for sounds, and we can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> speak
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the writings of 5,000 years ago because of this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>> This is all a lengthy, elaborate joke, right?
>>>>
>>>> Bethany
>>>>
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