please put places lived history in signature (was merkins)
Michael H Covarrubias
mcovarru at PURDUE.EDU
Mon Oct 23 01:58:25 UTC 2006
Tom -- are those states listed in order of residence -- and do the numbers
represent the years spent in each state? I'll use that model for now. (Note
that I keep moving back to MI -- If this is the right format I'll gladly include
it in my signature.)
USA - MI4, OH3, MD3, MI13, ND5, MI3, IN1+
I've never heard 'arrange' pronounced without the first vowel unless it is
following another vowel. So the phrase "I'm gonna arrange these" might
drop/combine the schwa, but "I'll arrange these" would not.
I have heard "police" pronounced with a dropped first vowel -- but it remains
disyllabic. Instead of creating an onset cluster, which would devoice the [l]
and make [i] the nucleus, I've heard the [l] become the nucleus of the first
syllable leaving [i] for the second.
If I hear correctly would that then create a geminate [l] or somehow allow the
[l] to serve also as the onset of the [-lis] syllable?
Quoting Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>:
> >"It is not uncommon in American English to weaken and drop unaccented vowels
> >from the first syllables of words, whether or not they are preceded by a
> >consonant, e.g., POLICE > P'LICE, ARRANGE > 'RANGE. etc."
>
>
> I's say those pronunciations are quite uncommon in USA, but possibly not in
> UK. You're from UK I gather.
>
> I'd like us all to put a line history of places lived like mine below in my
> signature. I find many responses I get are from non-American natives, even
> though this is "American" Dialect Society.
>
> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
> See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.
>
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