Joke on Liverpudlian speechways
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Wed Oct 25 21:45:14 UTC 2006
Is the "mam" in "me mam" pronounced like "mum," "ma'am," or "mom"? Or
like something else.
-Wilson
On 10/25/06, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu> wrote:
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> And you not only get flapping, but there's something called the T-to-
> R rule, which can give you a regular (molar) /r/ as a result. Only
> variably in Liverpool, though--usually intervocalic /r/ is a flap there.
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> Paul Johnston
> On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> > Yep, that's right. I caught it only because I've seen "r" and "rr"
> > used as makeshift symbols for a flap before, e.g. in Henry Roth's
> > "Call It Sleep," in which he writes "Shut up!" as "Sharrup!" IIRC. And
> > then there's the BE-speaking character, "Bunifa," on MadTV, who uses
> > an actual trill in her catchphrase, "Whurr I do?! Whurr I do?!" i.e.
> > "What did I do [wrong]?!"
> >
> > -Wilson
> >
> > On 10/25/06, Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at ohio.edu> wrote:
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> >> Ah, I finally got it! I assume we're talking about flapping
> >> here? Plus
> >> the choice of relative pronoun--right?
> >>
> >> At 03:10 PM 10/25/2006, you wrote:
> >>> Well, the second bloke is correct, you know, though I'd use the
> >>> spelling, "whuddle," for BE. ;-)
> >>>
> >>> -Wilson
> >>>
> >>> On 10/25/06, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >>>> I found this elsewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a riot.
> >>>>
> >>>> The following joke was recounted recently on Greater
> >>>> Manchester Radio
> >>>> (GMR)
> >>>>
> >>>> Two Liverpudlian young offenders are sharing a cell in Borstal.
> >>>> One is
> >>>> laboriously writing a letter. He looks up and says "Ay ! Ay !
> >>>> How do you
> >>>> spell 'Daryl' ?"
> >>>>
> >>>> 'What you wanna know for ?" says his cell mate. "We don't know
> >>>> any c***
> >>>> in 'ere called Daryl."
> >>>>
> >>>> The first one says, "'Cause I want me mam to send us a pair of
> >>>> jeans
> >>>> Daryl fit me."
> >>>>
> >>>> "You daft wassock!", says the second. "It's not, 'Daryl' fit me.
> >>>> It's
> >>>> 'Worral'."
> >>>>
> >>>> Ah, those Brits. What they do with our language !
> >>>>
> >>>> JL
> >>>>
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Everybody says, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange
complaint to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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Whoever has lived long enough to find out what life is knows how deep
a debt of gratitude we owe to Adam, the first great benefactor of our
race. He brought death into the world.
--Sam Clemens
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