Joke on Liverpudlian speechways

[neil]

Mam rhymes with spam.

>From one who was at college at Lennon's Liverpool art school from 1967
-1970.

--Neil Crawford


> From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
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> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:45:14 -0400
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> Subject: Re: Joke on Liverpudlian speechways
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> Is the "mam" in "me mam" pronounced like "mum," "ma'am," or "mom"? Or
> like something else.
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> -Wilson
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> On 10/25/06, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu> wrote:
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>> And you not only get flapping, but there's something called the T-to-
>> R rule, which can give you a regular (molar) /r/ as a result.  Only
>> variably in Liverpool, though--usually intervocalic /r/ is a flap there.
>>
>> Paul Johnston
>> On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>> Yep, that's right. I caught it only because I've seen "r" and "rr"
>>> used as makeshift symbols for a flap before, e.g. in Henry Roth's
>>> "Call It Sleep," in which he writes "Shut up!" as "Sharrup!" IIRC. And
>>> then there's the BE-speaking character, "Bunifa," on MadTV, who uses
>>> an actual trill in her catchphrase, "Whurr I do?! Whurr I do?!" i.e.
>>> "What did I do [wrong]?!"
>>>
>>> -Wilson
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>>> On 10/25/06, Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at ohio.edu> wrote:
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>>>> Ah, I finally got it!  I assume we're talking about flapping
>>>> here?  Plus
>>>> the choice of relative pronoun--right?
>>>>
>>>> At 03:10 PM 10/25/2006, you wrote:
>>>>> Well, the second bloke is correct, you know, though I'd use the
>>>>> spelling, "whuddle," for BE. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> -Wilson
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>>>>> On 10/25/06, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> I found this elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   It's a riot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   The following joke was recounted recently on Greater
>>>>>> Manchester Radio
>>>>>> (GMR)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two Liverpudlian young offenders are sharing a cell in Borstal.
>>>>>> One is
>>>>>> laboriously writing a letter. He looks up and says "Ay ! Ay !
>>>>>> How do you
>>>>>> spell 'Daryl' ?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'What you wanna know for ?" says his cell mate. "We don't know
>>>>>> any c***
>>>>>> in 'ere called Daryl."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first one says, "'Cause I want me mam to send us a pair of
>>>>>> jeans
>>>>>> Daryl fit me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "You daft wassock!", says the second. "It's not, 'Daryl' fit me.
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> 'Worral'."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Ah, those Brits. What they do with our language !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   JL
>>>>>>
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>>> complaint to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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>>> Whoever has lived long enough to find out what life is knows how deep
>>> a debt of gratitude we owe to Adam, the first great benefactor of our
>>> race. He brought death into the world.
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> Everybody says, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange
> complaint to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> -----
> Whoever has lived long enough to find out what life is knows how deep
> a debt of gratitude we owe to Adam, the first great benefactor of our
> race. He brought death into the world.
>
> --Sam Clemens
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