Dawgs
Tom Zurinskas
truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Oct 25 22:24:57 UTC 2006
m-w.com gives two pronunciations of "dog". Click icon to hear it.
Main Entry: 1dog
Pronunciation: 'dog, 'däg
Again, the awe/ah duplicity. Looks like "awe" is primary.
Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
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>From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OHIO.EDU>
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>Subject: Re: Dawgs
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:24:18 -0400
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>Yes, that's BE, but it's not Appalachian/Inland Southern--for example,
>rural Georgia. I suggested [daUg] to capture the offglide Matt mentioned,
>but it's not fully accurate either. We have it in Athens County/SE Ohio
>too, and it's definitely not [dOUg].
>
>Beverly
>
>At 11:30 PM 10/24/2006, you wrote:
> >I vote for Paul's 'the U-glide--like [dOUg]," which strikes me as aa
> >decent representation of the BE pronunciation. Cf., e.g. the original
> >"you Ain't Nothin' But A Houn'-Dog," by "Big Mama" Willa Mae Thornton
> >or "No More Doggin'," by Rosco Gordon.
> >
> >-Wilson
> >
> >On 10/24/06, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu> wrote:
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> >>The schwa glide? Or the U-glide--like [dOUg] ? I know that's an old
> >>Southern form.
> >>
> >>Paul Johnston
> >>On Oct 24, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Matthew Gordon wrote:
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> >> > Poster: Matthew Gordon <gordonmj at MISSOURI.EDU>
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> >> > I thought the "dawg" spelling was meant to represent not just the
> >> > open-o
> >> > pronunciation but the more specifically southern diphthongal form
> >> > with the
> >> > schwa glide.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 10/24/06 3:34 PM, "Charles Doyle" <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I went to a football game this past weekend, the University of
> >> >> Georgia vs.
> >> >> Mississippi State. Each university has for its totem the
> >> >> bulldog. Each
> >> >> university features its team as the "Dawgs"; the University of
> >> >> Georgia (at
> >> >> least) has been doing so for many years.
> >> >>
> >> >> It wasn't much of a game, so I had time to wonder about that
> >> >> spelling in a
> >> >> region where "dawg" represents what has been the traditional
> >> >> pronunciation
> >> >> anyway--with that "open o" that dialects of many regions are
> >> >> losing apace.
> >> >> Among (old-fashioned) "Southern" speakers, the "dog"/"dawg"
> >> >> distinction would
> >> >> be simply orthographic (like "come"/"cum"). But what about the
> >> >> semantics? Is
> >> >> it (or was it when it originated) merely a playful bit of self-
> >> >> conscious
> >> >> eye-dialect?
> >> >>
> >> >> Or, is the spelling something like a Confederate battle flag to be
> >> >> waved into
> >> >> the face of non-Southerners? Or perhaps it simply suggests
> >> >> "tradition" for
> >> >> fans of the University of Georgia (I don't know about MSU), whose
> >> >> campus is
> >> >> now prevalently populated by first- and second-generation /dag/-
> >> >> speaking
> >> >> Northern immigrants?
> >> >>
> >> >> Is it because we lost that war 140 years ago that Southerners have
> >> >> been so
> >> >> absorbed, obsessed with issues of our regional identity? A mom-
> >> >> and-pop
> >> >> restaurant in a small Georgia town will advertise its "Southern
> >> >> cooking," as
> >> >> if that weren't the default . . . .
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, yes, the Dawgs won the game. Barely.
> >> >>
> >> >> --Charlie
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