Dawgs

[Jonathan Lighter]

That sounds about right, Paul.  Is "tenseness" not factor here ?

  JL

Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU> wrote:
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Ranges from a raised backwards-c long monophthong (in careful
speech), through a diphthong starting with this vowel and going to
schwa (thus, [O@]), through [o@] to [U@]. V1's are slightly
centralized. I don't have a lengthened V1 in mine, but if I come out
with a monophthongal variant, it's a long one. The stereotype is
probably [U@].

In a pattern that throws Midwesterners, I have this vowel in dog, but
centralized script a (+ or - following schwa) in all other -og words.

Paul Johnston


On Oct 26, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

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> How does one indicate the notorious NYC "dawg," also heard in
> "cawfee"?
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> It's extra tense, I think. Not elongated, though.
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> JL
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> Bev wrote:
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> Actually, I'll modify my vowel a bit: In this area, at least, the core
> vowel is midway between /a/ and /O/, the so-called "turned script a".
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> Cardinal "turned script a" is low back rounded: same jaw and tongue
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> as "script a", but with lip rounding. Is that what you mean?
> http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/IPA/vowels.html
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> m a m
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