"scurred"
Mircea Sauciuc
msauciuc at GMAIL.COM
Fri Sep 1 21:28:31 UTC 2006
ha! that's true. pragmatically, in romanian, it will not make sense if
someone asks, "ce mai faci?" and you say "bine (fine/good)". so, yeah,
tudor was right in saying that.
nelly, too, right. i'm sure there are more than the two we had
mentioned, but chingy was just the first one that came to mind.
correct me if i'm wrong, but i *think* i remember reading about a year
ago something about you being from the st. louis area. was it you or
is it someone else on this list? wilson gray=st. louis sounds about
right to me. i could be mistaken. if it is you, is this correct to say
that that pronunciation of "there"--*thurr* and "hair"--*hurr* stems
from that area? my assumption is yes only because coming from that
area (i was only there for about three years or so) i heard that often
and it was said by most of the local rappers who had made it big-time.
On 9/1/06, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> You find this same phenomenon in the speech of the Saint Louis rapper,
> Nelly. I've also heard, e.g. "hurr" used for "hair" ("I fix people
> hurr") by speakers of Saint Louis - or "Nellyville" - BE.
>
> BTW, Mircea, ce mai faceti?
>
> Professor Iliescu's teaching assistant, Tudor Ionescu, once complained
> that, "In Romania, when we ask someone that, we really want to know!"
> This was back in 1972, so I can't recall whether a name like yours has
> a special vocative-case form.
>
> -Wilson
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> On 8/31/06, Mircea Sauciuc <msauciuc at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > i recently just came from the st. louis area and this was very common
> > variation of "scared" there. as you've probably heard, the rapper
> > *chingy* had a song "right thur(r?)", a varient for "right there."
> >
> > at any rate, the origin from what i've heard, is that st. louis
> > region. having gone home to visit family in chicago, i heard it said
> > there as well, but it was sparse and seemed more forced because of the
> > chingy song.
> >
> > -mcs
> >
> > Mircea C. Sauciuc
> > University of Kansas
> > Department of Linguistics
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> > On 8/31/06, Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Anyone know the origin of "scurred" as a variant of "scared?" I noticed tod=
> > > ay after someone wrote it in a online forum and after a brief search of Goo=
> > > gle that it's used by a larger number of people than I'd thought.
> > > =20
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