/t/ for /d/ for word endings

[Scot LaFaive]

I thought Ben was speaking of [-ed] in the voiceless environment, but he
wasn't. That's what I was confused of.
Also, not to sound rude or judgemental, but Tom, your question is elementary
phonology and I'm rather perplexed why you need to ask it if you had already
phonetically rewritten most of the English language. It makes me wonder
about your work thus far. Again, not trying to sound like an ass, just
mentioning.

Scot


>From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OHIO.EDU>
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>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:44:19 -0400
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>You mean Ben's email, don't you?  He raises the third environment at issue
>here, as in "wanted," "waited," "raided," etc.  But let's let Tom figure
>out the rules--or maybe he'll look in his fave Ladefoged or one of the many
>other books we've recommended on this list.
>
>At 01:30 PM 8/15/2007, you wrote:
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> >Poster:       Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at HOTMAIL.COM>
> >Subject:      Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
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> >Oh, sorry, I didn't see the end of Tom's email about voiced segments and
> >[-ed]. Never mind. :)
> >
> >Scot
> >
> >
> > >From: Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > >Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:25:32 -0500
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> > >Poster:       Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > >Subject:      Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
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> > >
> > >I'm confused. There's [-ed] in "flipped," "pissed," and "clinched?" I
>hear
> > >[t].
> > >
> > >Scot
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> > > >Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > > >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > >Subject: Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
> > > >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:11:02 -0700
> > > >
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> > > >Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> > > >Subject:      Re: /t/ for /d/ for word endings
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> > > >
> > > >No. There's the -ed sound as well. I'll leave it to you as a phonetic
> > > >exercise to figure out the environment. BB
> > > >
> > > >Tom Zurinskas wrote:
> > > > > Someone said the below.  Is this standard American pronunciation?
> > > > >
> > > > > /t/ is voiceless and /d/ is voiced.  In standard American
> > >pronunciation,
> > > > > verbs
> > > > > that end with a voiceless sound (/f/k/p/s/sh/ch/) add /t/ for
>their
> > >-ed
> > > > > ending.
> > > > > Verbs that end with a voiced sound add /d/ for their -ed ending.
> > > > >
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