"Blawg"

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Mon Dec 31 02:06:38 UTC 2007


At 8:06 PM -0500 12/30/07, David Bergdahl wrote:
>a LIer: 1) O 2) a  3)  a
>
>but orange, foreign, forest vary a & O
>
>-db

Agreed on all the above, with the additional datum that /a/ was
native for me in the last three but I partially (although
inconsistently) converted to /O/ during my undergraduate years in
Rochester and have been vacillating ever since.

LH

>
>On Dec 30, 2007 7:45 PM, David Donnell <David.Donnell at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>  Poster:       David Donnell <David.Donnell at EARTHLINK.NET>
>>  Subject:      Re: "Blawg"
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>>  Questions for the aforementioned effete eastcoasterners:
>>
>>       1) how do y'all say "Boston"?
>>       2) and "Bronx"?
>>       3) and (back to <og>) "Throgs Neck Bridge"?
>>
>>  Open-o or /a/?
>>
>>  (A friend from Loss Angeles once asked me "So what's a Throg,
>>  anyway?"... I still don't know the answer!)
>>
>>  DD
>>  Missourian @ NYC
>>
>>  >Tsk, tsk, Tom. And here I thought someone who preaches greater
>>  >consistency in the sound/spelling correspondence would be offended
>>  >by such variability in the phonemic assignment of <og>. Shouldn't
>>  >you praise those of us who use just one vowel in all <og> words?
>>  >
>>  >Matt Gordon
>>  >Proud "awe" repressor
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >-----Original Message-----
>>  >From: American Dialect Society on behalf of Tom Zurinskas
>>  >Sent: Sun 12/30/2007 4:18 PM
>>  >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>  >Subject:      Re: "Blawg"
>>  >
>>  >I agree.  I'd say your ideolect is standard American English for the
>>  >words you've cited.  What is the history of pronunciation of these
>>  >words.
>>  >
>>  >The problem is that some folks are repressing the sound "awe" and
>>  >replacing it with "ah" wherever it exists.  They just do not want to
>>  >say that sound.
>>  >
>>  >Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>>  >See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems"
>>  >at authorhouse.com.
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