"Blawg"
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Mon Dec 31 02:06:38 UTC 2007
At 8:06 PM -0500 12/30/07, David Bergdahl wrote:
>a LIer: 1) O 2) a 3) a
>
>but orange, foreign, forest vary a & O
>
>-db
Agreed on all the above, with the additional datum that /a/ was
native for me in the last three but I partially (although
inconsistently) converted to /O/ during my undergraduate years in
Rochester and have been vacillating ever since.
LH
>
>On Dec 30, 2007 7:45 PM, David Donnell <David.Donnell at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> Questions for the aforementioned effete eastcoasterners:
>>
>> 1) how do y'all say "Boston"?
>> 2) and "Bronx"?
>> 3) and (back to <og>) "Throgs Neck Bridge"?
>>
>> Open-o or /a/?
>>
>> (A friend from Loss Angeles once asked me "So what's a Throg,
>> anyway?"... I still don't know the answer!)
>>
>> DD
>> Missourian @ NYC
>>
>> >Tsk, tsk, Tom. And here I thought someone who preaches greater
>> >consistency in the sound/spelling correspondence would be offended
>> >by such variability in the phonemic assignment of <og>. Shouldn't
>> >you praise those of us who use just one vowel in all <og> words?
>> >
>> >Matt Gordon
>> >Proud "awe" repressor
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: American Dialect Society on behalf of Tom Zurinskas
>> >Sent: Sun 12/30/2007 4:18 PM
>> >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> >Subject: Re: "Blawg"
>> >
>> >I agree. I'd say your ideolect is standard American English for the
>> >words you've cited. What is the history of pronunciation of these
>> >words.
>> >
>> >The problem is that some folks are repressing the sound "awe" and
>> >replacing it with "ah" wherever it exists. They just do not want to
>> >say that sound.
>> >
>> >Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>> >See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems"
>> >at authorhouse.com.
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