"Blawg"

[David Bergdahl]

Larry,

Now that I think of it (or "on it" as they say here...) I lived ten years in
Syracuse NY which is where I probably started vacillating before /r/.  (The
variety in the pronunciation of "Appalachia" --with either LAY or LATCH for
the antepenult syllable-- is since I moved to Ohio 39 yrs ago).

-db

On Dec 30, 2007 9:06 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:

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> At 8:06 PM -0500 12/30/07, David Bergdahl wrote:
> >a LIer: 1) O 2) a  3)  a
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> >but orange, foreign, forest vary a & O
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> >-db
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> Agreed on all the above, with the additional datum that /a/ was
> native for me in the last three but I partially (although
> inconsistently) converted to /O/ during my undergraduate years in
> Rochester and have been vacillating ever since.
>
> LH
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> >
> >On Dec 30, 2007 7:45 PM, David Donnell <David.Donnell at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
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> >>  Questions for the aforementioned effete eastcoasterners:
> >>
> >>       1) how do y'all say "Boston"?
> >>       2) and "Bronx"?
> >>       3) and (back to <og>) "Throgs Neck Bridge"?
> >>
> >>  Open-o or /a/?
> >>
> >>  (A friend from Loss Angeles once asked me "So what's a Throg,
> >>  anyway?"... I still don't know the answer!)
> >>
> >>  DD
> >>  Missourian @ NYC
> >>
> >>  >Tsk, tsk, Tom. And here I thought someone who preaches greater
> >>  >consistency in the sound/spelling correspondence would be offended
> >>  >by such variability in the phonemic assignment of <og>. Shouldn't
> >>  >you praise those of us who use just one vowel in all <og> words?
> >>  >
> >>  >Matt Gordon
> >>  >Proud "awe" repressor
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >-----Original Message-----
> >>  >From: American Dialect Society on behalf of Tom Zurinskas
> >>  >Sent: Sun 12/30/2007 4:18 PM
> >>  >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>  >Subject:      Re: "Blawg"
> >>  >
> >>  >I agree.  I'd say your ideolect is standard American English for the
> >>  >words you've cited.  What is the history of pronunciation of these
> >>  >words.
> >>  >
> >>  >The problem is that some folks are repressing the sound "awe" and
> >>  >replacing it with "ah" wherever it exists.  They just do not want to
> >>  >say that sound.
> >>  >
> >>  >Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> >>  >See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems"
> >>  >at authorhouse.com.
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