Google Books [was: "Ice cream" from 1735?]

[Joel S. Berson]

Buy The London Magazine of 1735??  Make research twisted??

Joel

At 1/2/2007 11:29 AM, you wrote:
>Google Books used to explain that its purpose was less to help you
>find infiormation than to lead you to books you would be eager to
>buy from participating sellers.  This frank admission seems to have
>been dropped, or rephrased in a more soothing manner.  One sentence
>even attempted to promote the ensuing difficulties as some kind of
>bonus: research, "but with a Google twist !"
>
>   That sentence has also been dropped, the responsible spin-doctor
> destined (one hopes) for a special griddle in Hell.
>
>   JL
>
>
>"Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
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>Good heavens! Have there been any authoritative complaints? Or very
>public negative publicity? ((and I don't mean Internet blogs,
>I mean the NYTimes or Wall Street Journal, or the major cooperating
>universities.) Even with false positives and false negatives from
>Early American Newspapers, one can determine the issue (not simply
>the page number in some unknown year!)
>
>Joel
>
>At 1/2/2007 09:02 AM, you wrote:
> >One can't. Or I can't.
> >
> > JL
> >
> >"Joel S. Berson" wrote:
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> >Google Books, at
> >http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC10203011&id=X1IDAAAAMAAJ&q=%2
> 2ice+cream%22++gentleman's+magazine&dq=%22ice+cream%22++gentleman's+magazine&pgis=1,
> >returns a quotation for "ice cream" from London Magazine: Or,
> >Gentleman's Monthly Intelligencer, page 367, and describes it as
> >"Published 1735".
> >
> >Do I remember correctly that Google Books tells us the date the
> >journal was first published, so that this may not be an antedating of
> >OED2's 1744? (The illustration of the cover page is "Vol. XIV"; I am
> >not able quickly to say what year that may be.)
> >
> >How does one determine what issue the Google Books hit is from?
> >
> >Joel
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