"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep...discussing lunch" (Ben Franklin?)
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DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES--110,000 Google hits
WELL-ARMED LAMB--92,300 Google hits
WELL-ARMED SHEEP--19,400 Google hits
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Did Benjamin Franklin say this? It's not in the Yale Book of
Quotations--maybe next time? Or does this come from the 1990s??
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_http://www.nypost.com/seven/01242007/postopinion/editorials/lunches_with_wolv
es_editorials_.htm_
(http://www.nypost.com/seven/01242007/postopinion/editorials/lunches_with_wolves_editorials_.htm)
LUNCHES WITH WOLVES
January 24, 2007 -- Democracy has been defined as two wolves and a sheep
discussing plans for lunch.
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_Democracy: Three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for lunch._
(http://extlab1.entnem.ufl.edu/ih8pcs/vol5/v5n26.htm)
The International Black Sheep Society WWW site lets you post information on
the Black Sheep in your family while reading about the ones in other
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The Definition of Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what they
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That is the uncouth nature of pure democracy, where the proverbial four
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_QI Talk Forum | View topic - Democracy_
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"A democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding on what to have for lunch.
Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the results of the decision." ...
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_Of Thee I Speak: A Collection of Patriotic Quotes, Essays, and Speeches -
Page 34_
(http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0974566918&id=5dW8yQjuk18C&pg=PA34&lpg=PA34&ots=nBoR9DoxWy&dq=lunch+wolves+lamb+democracy&ie=ISO-8859-1&sig=A-
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by Steven (COM) Fantina - Reference - 2006 - 240 pages
—Charles Carroll Democracy is ... wolves and a lamb voting on what to have
for
lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! ...
<NOBR>Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the
<NOBR>--Benjamin Fr
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_Red, White & Liberal: How Left Is Right & Right Is Wrong - Page 306_
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ots=eaA36E1DfU&dq=lunch+wolves+lamb+democracy&ie=ISO-8859-1&sig=2Ffc-erArq9oRu
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by Alan Colmes - 2003 - 352 pages
As Benjamin Franklin said, “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on
what to
have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! ...
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_Gorgeous Robot Flesh - Page 116_
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by Jonathon Barbera - 2004 - 196 pages
Now there was a quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin on the subject of
democracy
involving two on three wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch,
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_The Diluted Church: Calling Believers to Live Out of Their True Heritage -
Page 99_
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by Timothy L. Price - 2005 - 276 pages
He wrote, “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch.”
Jesus faced the same seductive temptation when He was fasting in the ...
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_The Long Road to Peace in Northern Ireland: peace lectures from the
Institute of Irish Studies at... - Page 42_
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es+sheep+democracy&ie=ISO-8859-1&sig=OHPuWgSGTF_Rs6wJOlZXeNKherY)
by Marianne ( Elliott - 2001 - 266 pages
In this sense, democracy is not about how three wolves and a sheep vote
about
... up for lunch, but, as Isaiah Berlin puts it, how the freedom of the
wolves ...
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_Ecology, Engineering, and Management: reconciling ecosystem rehabilitation
and service reliability - Page 89_
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mocracy&ie=ISO-8859-1&sig=CFzDdUzqTXDYnyYQbzopki1J3jk)
by Michel J. G. Van Eeten, Emery Roe - 2002 - 270 pages
... in a democracy has been likened to asking a pack of four hungry wolves
and a
sheep to apply democratic principles to deciding what to eat for lunch. ...
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_http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin_
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Misattributions
* Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
* Widely attributed to Franklin on the internet, sometimes without the
second sentence, it is not found in any of his known writings, and the word
"lunch" is not known to have appeared anywhere in english literature until
the 1820s, decades after his death. The phrasing itself has a very modern tone
and the second sentence especially might not even be as old as the internet.
Some of these observations are made in response to a query at _Google Answers_
(http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=389308) .
A far rarer but somewhat more credible variation also occurs: "Democracy is
two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner." Web searches on
these lines uncovers the earliest definite citations for such a statement credit
libertarian author _James Bovard_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bovard) with a similar one in the _Sacramento Bee (1994)_
(http://www.giraffe.com/gr_wolves.html) :
"Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what
to have for dinner."
This statement also definitely occurs in the "Conclusion" (p. 333) of his
book Lost Rights: The Destruction of American Liberty (1994) _ISBN 0312123337_
(http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Booksources&isbn=0312123337)
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_Electoral College_
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84c6ab91c34c?lnk=st&q="democracy+is+two+wolves"&rnum=133&hl=en#164e84c6ab91c34c) Group: _misc.misc_
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... some might say that's a good thing. the founding fathers had a good
reason for
making this a republic instead of a democracy. as the saying goes, "Democracy
is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner". ...
Feb 26 1993 by Derek Reisinger - 74 messages - 43 authors
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_Shared sacrifice = TAXES! TAXES! TAXES!_
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... John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep using majority vote to decide what - -
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Feb 20 1993 by John R. Moore - 311 messages - 89 authors
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... but it is all too easy to impugn a racial motive, -- John Moore NJ7E,
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john anasaz!j... at asuvax.eas.asu.edu - Democracy is two wolves and a ...
Jan 15 1993 by John R. Moore - 103 messages - 42 authors
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... Garrett Michael Hayes gha... at mindspring.com * Democracy is two wolves
and a sheep
voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is two wolves attempting to have
a sheep
for dinner and finding a well-informed, well-armed sheep.
May 2 1997 by Garrett Michael Hayes
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_rhide and Windows95_
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rnum=44&hl=en#ebc26da3f75fbd35) Group: _comp.os.msdos.djgpp_
(http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.msdos.djgpp?lnk=sg&hl=en) ... (FILENAME and
PATH are shown as an example...the case is the significance) What
now? Dave D. Dave Dawson Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb denying enforcement of the vote.
Jun 11 1997 by Selfgovern - 8 messages - 7 authors
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