Weiner or Hamburger Schnitzel (1868)

[Laurence Horn]

At 3:04 PM -0400 7/4/07, Wilson Gray wrote:
>According to Wikipedia, as cited by Barry, the Schnitzel Holsteiner
>Art is breaded, whereas the Hamburger schnitzel is not. "Breaded"
>corresponds to the Holsteiner schnitzel as I've experienced it both in
>Germany and in the States. I'm not familiar with the Hamburger
>schnitzel.
>
>-Wilson

I just looked Wiener Schnitzel up in my old _Joy
of Cooking_, and after the instructions to bread
the veal cutlets (blot dry, dip in flour, dip in
egg, dip in bread crumbs), and sauté them in
butter, it suggests garnishing with lemon slices
and rolled anchovies (I always skipped the
latter) and then says "If you also cap the
garnished cutlet above with a fried egg, you may
call it Holstein."

They sure knew how to put it.

LH

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>On 7/4/07, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>>At 11:54 AM -0400 7/4/07, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
>>>Two interesting news articles on the "hamburger" are below.
>>>...
>>>"Hamburger schnitzel" is, according to the
>>>Wikipedia, schnitzel with a  fried
>>>egg on top ("Hamburg-style"?).
>>
>>I've always thought of those schnitzels as "Holstein" (maybe after
>>learning that from The Joy of Cooking in the 60s back when I used to
>>cook them)--perhaps "Hamburger schnitzel" was the older name, later
>>blocked because of the very different sorts of object it would seem
>>to refer to.
>>
>>LH
>>
>>>   However, citations for "Hamburger  schnitzel"
>>>are almost non-existent. What is it?
>>>...
>>>The 1868 "hamburger schnitzel" citation from San Francisco is interesting.
>>>It appears that the San Francisco post-gold rush people ate a lot of (mostly
>>>weiner) schnitzel!
>>>...
>>>...
>>>...
>>>_http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-smith4jul04,1,220865.story?coll=la
>>>-headlines-food_
>>>(http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-smith4jul04,1,220865.story?coll=la-headlines-food)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Andrew Smith, ketchup guy, turns burgermeister
>>>But there's more: The editor of the new 'Oxford  Companion to American Food
>>>and Drink' really has an eye for icons.
>>>By Charles Perry, Times Staff Writer
>>>July 4, 2007
>>>...
>>>...
>>>
>>>_http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070704/LIFE/707040309/
>>>1005_
>>>(http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070704/LIFE/707040309/1005)
>>>Burger background
>>>Chopped meat ancient, but L.A. cooked an icon
>>>
>>>By Charles Perry
>>>Los Angeles  Times
>>>...
>>>...
>>>...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_Wiener  schnitzel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_
>>>(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_schnitzel)      Hamburger
>>>Schnitzel: "Hamburg-style
>>>schnitzel", topped with a fried egg. Holsteiner Schnitzel:
>>>"Holstein-style  schnitzel";
>>>breaded; topped with a fried egg, ...
>>>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_schnitzel - 44k  -
>>>...
>>>...
>>>13 May 1868, San Francisco (CA) Daily Evening Bulletin, pg. 3 ad:
>>>BILL OF FARE--IN PART.
>>>(...)
>>>Weiner or Hamburger Schnitzel...12c
>>>(...)
>>>CALIFORNIA COFFEE SALON
>>>612 and 614 Montgomery st., near Clay.
>>>
>>>
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