ginormous (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Scot LaFaive]

>Someone said either spelling ae/ai represent the diphthongal nature of the
>vowel sound "eye".  >That may be true in other dialects but m-w.com for
>"pipe,time,hike" has one sound for the >vowel "eye" not two as I hear it.
>I'd like to hear a sound file where the "long i" vowel is >diphthongal.

I can hear it in my midwestern (WI) dialect. It's not severe like some
dialects but I can tell that there is a diphthong just waiting to come out.

Scot


>From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: ginormous (UNCLASSIFIED)
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:52:43 +0000
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>Someone said either spelling ae/ai represent the diphthongal nature of the
>vowel sound "eye".  That may be true in other dialects but m-w.com for
>"pipe,time,hike" has one sound for the vowel "eye" not two as I hear it.
>I'd like to hear a sound file where the "long i" vowel is diphthongal.
>
>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>See truespel.com - and the 4  truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at
>authorhouse.com.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> >Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >Subject: Re: ginormous (UNCLASSIFIED)
> >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:24:07 -0400
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> >Poster:       Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> >Subject:      Re: ginormous (UNCLASSIFIED)
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> >WAG: Is it the case that "ai" is intended to represent the
> >Classical-Arabic sound, whereas "ae" is meant to reflect a more modern
> >pronunciation? Or not.
> >
> >-Wilson, who knows of Arabic only that it is a Semitic language
> >
> >
> >
> >On 7/12/07, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Poster:       Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > > Subject:      Re: ginormous (UNCLASSIFIED)
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> > >
> > > Sorry all about the "K" I wrote in Al Kaeda, Al Kaida.  That should
>have
> > > been Al Qaeda, Al Qaida.  Basically I was focusing on the ae/ai
> >difference.
> > > I had always seen it as "ai" before.  Now I see it "ae" in the
> >newspapers.
> > >
> > > For truespel I needed a phonetic spelling for the sound "eye" (long
>i).
> >I
> > > picked ~ie (as in "pie,lie,tried).  This is in line with a rule that
>all
> > > "long" vowels are spelled with silent e moved over next to them
> > > (ae,ee,ie,oe,ue).
> > >
> > > More predominant for spelling that sound is the leter "i" alone
> >(primarily
> > > due to the word "I".  Next is "i" with "silent e" and then "y", "igh",
> >"ie"
> > > and "eye" with a few others.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> > > See truespel.com - and the 4  truespel books plus "Occasional Poems"
>at
> > > authorhouse.com.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Mullins, Bill AMRDEC" <Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL>
> > > >Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > > >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > >Subject: Re: ginormous (UNCLASSIFIED)
> > > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:38:36 -0500
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> > > >Poster:       "Mullins, Bill AMRDEC" <Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL>
> > > >Subject:      Re: ginormous (UNCLASSIFIED)
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> > > >Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
> > > >Caveats: NONE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >  Note the problem with spelling Al Kaida, Al
> > > > > Kaeda.  I wonder who orchestrated the switch to the spelling Al
> >Kaeda?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Zurinskas,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >What switch?  Neither USA Today, LA Times, Wash Post, NY Times,
> > > >Associated Press, CNN spell it that way -- all seem to use "Al Qaeda"
> > > >Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
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