stars and ours

Beverly Flanigan flanigan at OHIO.EDU
Fri Jun 1 13:31:48 UTC 2007


And surely [j at rz] = 'yers' for "yours" is non-regional?

At 06:38 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote:
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>For the record, New Yorkers also say [ar(z)] for "our(s)" when they're not
>saying [a:(z)].
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>Michael H Covarrubias <mcovarru at PURDUE.EDU> wrote: ----------------------
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>I've heard [ar(z)] more commonly than [aUrz] from Michigan to the Dakotas and
>down to Nebraska.
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>When I was in college in Michigan, everybody that shortened "our Resident
>Fellow" to "our R.F" sounded like they were barking and stuttering: [ararEf].
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>Michael
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>Quoting Wilson Gray :
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> > It sounds like Philadelphian to me. It's a feature of Chomsky's speech.
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> > -Wilson
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> > > On 5/30/07, James Harbeck  wrote:
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> > > Just read a poem by a high school student from western Canada that
> > > illustrates a standard Canadian pronunciation rather well: it rhymes
> > > "stars" with "ours" -- quite reasonably, though I'm not used to
> > > seeing those two words matched, perhaps because at least in my
> > > generation and earlier ones, we were taught that "ours" was properly
> > > pronounced like "hours," even if it almost never really was by us.
> > > Evidently even that awareness of [aUrz] as a citation form is
> > > disappearing. (This is from a well-educated kid, too -- a gifted
> > > student, graduating high school at 16.)
> > >
> > > That one's also common in much of the US, no?
> > >
> > > James Harbeck.
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