stars and ours

[Dennis Preston]

Now Beverly, aren't places with post-vocalic /r/ regional? Could
there be some social markedness going on here?

dInIs

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>And surely [j at rz] = 'yers' for "yours" is non-regional?
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>At 06:38 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote:
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>>For the record, New Yorkers also say [ar(z)] for "our(s)" when they're not
>>saying [a:(z)].
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>>JL
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>>I've heard [ar(z)] more commonly than [aUrz] from Michigan to the Dakotas and
>>down to Nebraska.
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>>When I was in college in Michigan, everybody that shortened "our Resident
>>Fellow" to "our R.F" sounded like they were barking and stuttering: [ararEf].
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>>Michael
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>>Quoting Wilson Gray :
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>>  >
>>  > It sounds like Philadelphian to me. It's a feature of Chomsky's speech.
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>>  > -Wilson
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>>  > > On 5/30/07, James Harbeck  wrote:
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>>  > > Just read a poem by a high school student from western Canada that
>>  > > illustrates a standard Canadian pronunciation rather well: it rhymes
>>  > > "stars" with "ours" -- quite reasonably, though I'm not used to
>>  > > seeing those two words matched, perhaps because at least in my
>>  > > generation and earlier ones, we were taught that "ours" was properly
>>  > > pronounced like "hours," even if it almost never really was by us.
>>  > > Evidently even that awareness of [aUrz] as a citation form is
>>  > > disappearing. (This is from a well-educated kid, too -- a gifted
>>  > > student, graduating high school at 16.)
>>  > >
>>  > > That one's also common in much of the US, no?
>>  > >
>>  > > James Harbeck.
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