How they say German

[RonButters at AOL.COM]

In a message dated 6/20/07 6:29:19 PM, preston at MSU.EDU writes:


> Colleagues,
> 
> "Po niemiecku" does not mean "German" (neither
> the people nor the nationality) in Polish; it is
> an adverbial which means (roughly) "Germanly" or
> "in the German manner" and means to speak German.
> The so-called phonetics, or whatever bullshit
> truespel is, is laughably off since the glide
> onsets to the first two vocalic segments of
> "niemiecku" (which are the same except for
> stress) are not indicated, and, even sillier,
> they are shown as segmentally different, but they
> are not.
> 
> The phonetics are, of course, roughly (a kind
> word actually; they are simply incorrect)
> phonemic, not phonetic at all.
> 
> Who is Tom Zurinskas and what is this crap? I've
> been off the list for a while plying my trade in
> the old Country.
> 
> dInIs
> 
> 
> 
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> >Poster:       Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
> >Subject:      How they say German
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> >
> >Germans don't call themselves German.  Its ~Doich.  Strange that we call
> >other people by names they don't use themselves.
> >
> >Below are words for "German" in other languages as heard on travlang.com
> >Word of the Day.  Phonetics are in truespel.
> >
> >http://us.f528.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=4841_3551761_48469_
> 1373_4029_0_208154_15790_1603225941&Idx=105&YY=92900&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&inc=25&
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> >
> >
> >Arabic Alalmania   ~Elelmanneeyu   (double consonant starts a stressed
> >syllable. ~u is "uh".
> >Dutch Duits ~Duts
> >English German  ~Jermin
> >French allemand ~Elmun
> >German Deutsch  ~Doich
> >Japanese Doitsugo ~Doitsuegoe'  (~ue is long u.  ~oe is long o.  Ending
> >apostrophe is glottal stop.)
> >Korean Dok-il-o  ~Doekkeedoe  (~ee is long e)
> >Mandarin dÈ yuv.  ~Doiyeu  (~eu is the vowel in "her" without the "r".
> >Polish po niemiecku ~Poe Neemmitskue
> >Portuguese alem“o  ~Elummun
> >Russian Nemetsky  ~Nemyeski  (~i is short i)
> >Spanish alem·n   Aaleemman  (~aa is "ah", ~a is short a)
> >Swahili Kijerumani  ~Teefermmaanee   (I hear ~t for the K, Maybe poor 
> audio)
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
The [t] is pronounced in the Russian, I'm pretty sure. Both the Russian and 
the Polish mean, literally, 'the dumb ones', right?





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