How they say German

[Mark Mandel]

Poor dInIs, you've come back into the middle of this. Tom Zurinskas is a
crank who thinks that he knows all there is to know about language, and that
he's qualified to pontificate on it and ignore anything anyone else says
because he's sold some  copies of his self-published books and is therefore
a language professional. I have him killfiled. I suggest you do the same.

m a m

On 6/20/07, RonButters at aol.com <RonButters at aol.com> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/20/07 6:29:19 PM, preston at MSU.EDU writes:
>
>
> > Colleagues,
> >=20
> > "Po niemiecku" does not mean "German" (neither
> > the people nor the nationality) in Polish; it is
> > an adverbial which means (roughly) "Germanly" or
> > "in the German manner" and means to speak German.
> > The so-called phonetics, or whatever bullshit
> > truespel is, is laughably off since the glide
> > onsets to the first two vocalic segments of
> > "niemiecku" (which are the same except for
> > stress) are not indicated, and, even sillier,
> > they are shown as segmentally different, but they
> > are not.
> >=20
> > The phonetics are, of course, roughly (a kind
> > word actually; they are simply incorrect)
> > phonemic, not phonetic at all.
> >=20
> > Who is Tom Zurinskas and what is this crap? I've
> > been off the list for a while plying my trade in
> > the old Country.
> >=20
> > dInIs
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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> > >Sender:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 American Dialect Society <
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> > >Poster:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > >Subject:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 How they say German
> > >
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> > >
> > >Germans don't call themselves German.=C2=A0 Its ~Doich.=C2=A0 Strange
> tha=
> t we call
> > >other people by names they don't use themselves.
> > >
> > >Below are words for "German" in other languages as heard on
> travlang.com
> > >Word of the Day.=C2=A0 Phonetics are in truespel.
> > >
> > >http://us.f528.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=3D4841_3551761_48469_
> >
> 1373_4029_0_208154_15790_1603225941&Idx=3D105&YY=3D92900&y5beta=3Dyes&y5be=
> ta=3Dyes&inc=3D25&
> > order=3Dup&sort=3Ddate&pos=3D0&view=3Da&head=3Db&box=3DTrash
> > >
> > >
> > >Arabic Alalmania=C2=A0=C2=A0 ~Elelmanneeyu=C2=A0=C2=A0 (double
> consonant=20=
> starts a stressed
> > >syllable. ~u is "uh".
> > >Dutch Duits ~Duts
> > >English German=C2=A0 ~Jermin
> > >French allemand ~Elmun
> > >German Deutsch=C2=A0 ~Doich
> > >Japanese Doitsugo ~Doitsuegoe'=C2=A0 (~ue is long u.=C2=A0 ~oe is long
> o.=
> =C2=A0 Ending
> > >apostrophe is glottal stop.)
> > >Korean Dok-il-o=C2=A0 ~Doekkeedoe=C2=A0 (~ee is long e)
> > >Mandarin d=C3=88 yuv.=C2=A0 ~Doiyeu=C2=A0 (~eu is the vowel in "her"
> with=
> out the "r".
> > >Polish po niemiecku ~Poe Neemmitskue
> > >Portuguese alem=E2=80=9Co=C2=A0 ~Elummun
> > >Russian Nemetsky=C2=A0 ~Nemyeski=C2=A0 (~i is short i)
> > >Spanish alem=C2=B7n=C2=A0=C2=A0 Aaleemman=C2=A0 (~aa is "ah", ~a is
> short=
> a)
> > >Swahili Kijerumani=C2=A0 ~Teefermmaanee=C2=A0=C2=A0 (I hear ~t for the
> K,=
> Maybe poor=20
> > audio)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >=20
> >=20
> The [t] is pronounced in the Russian, I'm pretty sure. Both the Russian
> and=20
> the Polish mean, literally, 'the dumb ones', right?
>
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