How they say German

Sat Jun 30 01:04:48 UTC 2007

Mandel seem very cranky to me.  I never intimated that I know "everything
about language".  I'm merely a monolinguist in English applying a simple
dictionary key to spell USA English and other languages phonetically in an
English user friendly way.   This would be accessible to children, much as
IBM's Writing to Read was, an idea way before its time that really worked.

USA kids need help in learning reading.  USA educators have been using
"whole language" for reading instruction which mandates that the teacher NOT
teach that letters stand for sounds.  The USA National Reading Panel said
this is wrong.  "Phonemic awareness" is a key attribute of successful
readers.   But there is no keyboard friendly, English friendly way to spell
English phonemes.  Now, UK next fall is turning to "synthetic phonics" to do
the trick, but truespel goes the extra step and is a phonetic spelling so
simple that only 40 sound spellings need be learned to read English.  Not
only that but it is retained as the dictionary pronunciation guide and
translation guide to other languages.

Because truespel uses regular letters, it can be used in spreadsheets for
analysis, which I've done.  I've expanded to other languages to see how it
works there.  It integrates these areas for the first time.  This is a good
thing and I welcome any who would like to participate.  Go to truespel.com
to see the free converter.  Use the URL converter there to see your and
other web pages converted to truespel phonetics.

I believe truespel will replace the nonstandard pronunciation guides that we
have in our dictionaries with a truespel guide just because it's so useful
and actually superior.  I request all advice and suggestions, just don't be
vague.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
See truespel.com - and the 4  truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at
authorhouse.com.

>From: Mark Mandel <thnidu at GMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: How they say German
>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:59:07 -0400
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>Poor dInIs, you've come back into the middle of this. Tom Zurinskas is a
>crank who thinks that he knows all there is to know about language, and
>that
>he's qualified to pontificate on it and ignore anything anyone else says
>because he's sold some  copies of his self-published books and is therefore
>a language professional. I have him killfiled. I suggest you do the same.
>
>m a m
>
>On 6/20/07, RonButters at aol.com <RonButters at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/20/07 6:29:19 PM, preston at MSU.EDU writes:
> >
> >
> > > Colleagues,
> > >=20
> > > "Po niemiecku" does not mean "German" (neither
> > > the people nor the nationality) in Polish; it is
> > > an adverbial which means (roughly) "Germanly" or
> > > "in the German manner" and means to speak German.
> > > The so-called phonetics, or whatever bullshit
> > > truespel is, is laughably off since the glide
> > > onsets to the first two vocalic segments of
> > > "niemiecku" (which are the same except for
> > > stress) are not indicated, and, even sillier,
> > > they are shown as segmentally different, but they
> > > are not.
> > >=20
> > > The phonetics are, of course, roughly (a kind
> > > word actually; they are simply incorrect)
> > > phonemic, not phonetic at all.
> > >=20
> > > Who is Tom Zurinskas and what is this crap? I've
> > > been off the list for a while plying my trade in
> > > the old Country.
> > >=20
> > > dInIs
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
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> > > >Sender:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 American Dialect Society <
> > ADS-L at LISTSER=
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> > > >Poster:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 Tom Zurinskas
><truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > > >Subject:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 How they say German
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > -----
> > > >
> > > >Germans don't call themselves German.=C2=A0 Its ~Doich.=C2=A0 Strange
> > tha=
> > t we call
> > > >other people by names they don't use themselves.
> > > >
> > > >Below are words for "German" in other languages as heard on
> > travlang.com
> > > >Word of the Day.=C2=A0 Phonetics are in truespel.
> > > >
> > >
> >http://us.f528.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=3D4841_3551761_48469_
> > >
> >
>1373_4029_0_208154_15790_1603225941&Idx=3D105&YY=3D92900&y5beta=3Dyes&y5be=
> > ta=3Dyes&inc=3D25&
> > > order=3Dup&sort=3Ddate&pos=3D0&view=3Da&head=3Db&box=3DTrash
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Arabic Alalmania=C2=A0=C2=A0 ~Elelmanneeyu=C2=A0=C2=A0 (double
> > consonant=20=
> > starts a stressed
> > > >syllable. ~u is "uh".
> > > >Dutch Duits ~Duts
> > > >English German=C2=A0 ~Jermin
> > > >French allemand ~Elmun
> > > >German Deutsch=C2=A0 ~Doich
> > > >Japanese Doitsugo ~Doitsuegoe'=C2=A0 (~ue is long u.=C2=A0 ~oe is
>long
> > o.=
> > =C2=A0 Ending
> > > >apostrophe is glottal stop.)
> > > >Korean Dok-il-o=C2=A0 ~Doekkeedoe=C2=A0 (~ee is long e)
> > > >Mandarin d=C3=88 yuv.=C2=A0 ~Doiyeu=C2=A0 (~eu is the vowel in "her"
> > with=
> > out the "r".
> > > >Polish po niemiecku ~Poe Neemmitskue
> > > >Portuguese alem=E2=80=9Co=C2=A0 ~Elummun
> > > >Russian Nemetsky=C2=A0 ~Nemyeski=C2=A0 (~i is short i)
> > > >Spanish alem=C2=B7n=C2=A0=C2=A0 Aaleemman=C2=A0 (~aa is "ah", ~a is
> > short=
> > a)
> > > >Swahili Kijerumani=C2=A0 ~Teefermmaanee=C2=A0=C2=A0 (I hear ~t for
>the
> > K,=
> > Maybe poor=20
> > > audio)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > The [t] is pronounced in the Russian, I'm pretty sure. Both the Russian
> > and=20
> > the Polish mean, literally, 'the dumb ones', right?
> >
> >
> >
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