hyperforeign 'jihad'

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Sat Mar 10 14:45:43 UTC 2007


So does jihad > yeehaa  ?

  JL
  Scholar-Scamp

Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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"Jihad" as pronounced by Arabs speaking Arabic isn't relevant to
Matthew's observation regarding the pronunciation of foreign words by
Americans.

-Wilson

On 3/6/07, Paul Johnston
wrote:
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> As i remember, the pronunciation of Arabic jiim can be either one,
> depending on area; as I recall it, Moghrebi and the Levantine
> dialects tend to have the fricative; Iraq and a lot of Saudi Arabia
> the affricate; and Egypt & Sudan, /g/. I think there are areas that
> have merged this sound with IPA /j/ in the Gulf, too.
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> Paul Johnston
> On Mar 5, 2007, at 3:05 PM, Matthew Gordon wrote:
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> > Last night's 60 Minutes featured a piece on the use of the internet
> > for
> > terrorist propaganda. The reporter, Scott Pelley, repeatedly
> > pronounced
> > 'jihad' with an initial fricative which I suspect is not uncommon for
> > journalists. It was striking here, however, since everyone
> > interviewed for
> > the piece used the affricate pronunciation.
> >
> > You can watch the piece online:
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/02/60minutes/main2531546.shtml
> >
> > I'm assuming the affricate is closer to the Arabic which is why I'm
> > labeling
> > this an example of hyperforeignism.
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