Year names

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu May 3 12:34:16 UTC 2007

I had no idea that there was a rule concerning the use of "and' in numbers.


On 5/2/07, James C Stalker <stalker at> wrote:
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> I was taught the same rule.  As I remember, "and" was to be used only before
> cents, in phrases such as: one hundred thirty three dollars and fifty two
> cents.
> Arnold M. Zwicky writes:
> > to pull out one small point, about "and" in number names (in general,
> > not just in year names).  i recall being taught at some point in
> > school that things like "one hundred and two", "two hundred and
> > thirty", etc. were vulgar errors (in both speech and writing), that
> > "and" should never be used in such expressions.  (this might have
> > been an instance of Omit Needless Words).  the lesson seems not to
> > have stuck with me, since i sometimes use one version, sometimes the
> > other.
> >
> >
> James C. Stalker
> Department of English
> Michigan State University
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