up sticks/up stakes: eggcorn origin? (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Mullins, Bill AMRDEC]

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I see classes taught locally to immigrants called ESL -- "English as a
Second Language".  Such would be my knowledge of BE.  Sometimes
something declared to be BE (or AAVL, or Ebonics, or whatever) seems
obviously so, sometimes it just looks like colloquial English with which
I'm not familiar.

Given my ignorance of the subject, I should most likely "cut out" from
this discussion. (And now, we have one documented usage of the term by a
white guy.)

Bill


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> Poster:       Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: up sticks/up stakes: eggcorn origin?
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> Bill, you're forgetting that this is the United States, not
> some free country "with liberty and justice for all," as that
> laughable "pledge of allegiance says. If *you* have never
> heard a white person say "cut out" = "depart," what are the
> chances that *I* would have heard a white person say "cut
> out" = "depart"? OTOH, I've heard it said hundreds of
> thousands of times by black people and I say it myself.
>
> I grant your claim that, if you did hear a white person say "cut out"
> = "depart," you would understand his meaning. I certainly
> don't consider BE to be a code that white people can't
> understand nor do I think that the use of certain forms by
> blacks precludes the use of those same forms by whites. :-)
>
> -Wilson
>
> On 5/18/07, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:
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> > > Poster:       Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
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> > > FWIW, "cut out" = "depart" in BE.
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> > Solely BE?  If I heard a white guy talk about "cutting
> out", I think
> > it would be clear what he meant (although I can't ever specifically
> > remember hearing anyone, white or black, use the phrase.)
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