stars and ours

Dennis R. Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Thu May 31 14:43:32 UTC 2007


Help? What Canadian practice cause "my" and "eye" to not rhyme?
Neither is a candidate for so-called "Canadian raising."

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>I can just give a cheers to the W. CND. pronunciation. That is how I
>would say it. (I'm still happy I don't consider "my" and "eye" to
>rhyme though--Brown's MFA poetry program was a very interesting study
>in pronunciation.)
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>On May 31, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>  It sounds like Philadelphian to me. It's a feature of Chomsky's
>>  speech.
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>>  -Wilson
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>>  On 5/30/07, James Harbeck <jharbeck at sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>>>  Just read a poem by a high school student from western Canada that
>>>  illustrates a standard Canadian pronunciation rather well: it rhymes
>>>  "stars" with "ours" -- quite reasonably, though I'm not used to
>>>  seeing those two words matched, perhaps because at least in my
>>>  generation and earlier ones, we were taught that "ours" was properly
>>>  pronounced like "hours," even if it almost never really was by us.
>>>  Evidently even that awareness of [aUrz] as a citation form is
>>>  disappearing. (This is from a well-educated kid, too -- a gifted
>>>  student, graduating high school at 16.)
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>>>  That one's also common in much of the US, no?
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>>>  James Harbeck.
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