stars and ours

[Sarah Lang]

I believe I raise "eye." (Though now that I've said them 5 billion
times . . . .)

(Sorry, perhaps it was poets nitpicking over how they rhymed:
Atlanta, GA vs Edmonton, AB.)

S.

On May 31, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Dennis R. Preston wrote:

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> Help? What Canadian practice cause "my" and "eye" to not rhyme?
> Neither is a candidate for so-called "Canadian raising."
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>> I can just give a cheers to the W. CND. pronunciation. That is how I
>> would say it. (I'm still happy I don't consider "my" and "eye" to
>> rhyme though--Brown's MFA poetry program was a very interesting study
>> in pronunciation.)
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>> S.
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>> On May 31, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>>  It sounds like Philadelphian to me. It's a feature of Chomsky's
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>>>  -Wilson
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>>>  On 5/30/07, James Harbeck <jharbeck at sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>>>>  Just read a poem by a high school student from western Canada that
>>>>  illustrates a standard Canadian pronunciation rather well: it
>>>> rhymes
>>>>  "stars" with "ours" -- quite reasonably, though I'm not used to
>>>>  seeing those two words matched, perhaps because at least in my
>>>>  generation and earlier ones, we were taught that "ours" was
>>>> properly
>>>>  pronounced like "hours," even if it almost never really was by us.
>>>>  Evidently even that awareness of [aUrz] as a citation form is
>>>>  disappearing. (This is from a well-educated kid, too -- a gifted
>>>>  student, graduating high school at 16.)
>>>>
>>>>  That one's also common in much of the US, no?
>>>>
>>>>  James Harbeck.
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