New "lumpkin," "girney"

[Laurence Horn]

At 9:14 PM +0000 11/17/07, ronbutters at aol.com wrote:
>Also the middle name of the linguist Peter 
>Patrick (?), who is, I think, a descendant of 
>the governor.

Well, I can narrow it down: if you're referring 
to the linguist at Essex, he's Peter L. Patrick, 
and his e-mail if you want to ask him yourself is
<patrickp at ESSEX.AC.UK>.

More fully, his sig info is:

Prof. Peter L. Patrick
Dept. of Language and Linguistics
University of Essex
Wivenhoe Park
Colchester CO4 3SQ, U.K.
patrickp at essex.ac.uk
(+44) 1206  872088
http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~patrickp


LH

>I could not find LUMKIN on Urban Dictionary.
>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dennis Preston <preston at msu.edu>
>
>Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:15:34
>To:ronbutters at aol.com
>Subject: Re: New "lumpkin," "girney"
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>
>Yep. Former Gov. of Georgia.
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>dInIs
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>>Isn't Lumpkin an important family name in the
>>American South? My memory is that there is a
>>Lumpkin Ave in Athens, GA.
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>>Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:32:58
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>>And the Urban Dictionary has a rather different
>>sense of "lumkin" from any of these.
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>>dInIs
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>>>Subject:      New "lumpkin," "girney"
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>>>OED has_lumpkin_ for an oaf in the year 1901
>>>only.  But today Meredith F. Small has a
>>>different idea
>>>[http://www.livescience.com/history/071116-hn-baby-monkeys.html]:
>>>
>>>     "Nothing makes a person sound more idiotic
>>>than the presence of a new baby.
>>>
>>>     "Our voices climb quickly into the
>>>stratosphere of the human vocal range and our
>>>words squeak out in a way that annoys everyone
>>>within earshot.
>>>
>>>     "We also start to babble senseless, often embarrassing, phrases.
>>>     'Oooooh, sweetums, lumpkin, cutie-cutie' "
>>>
>>>     Female macaques seems to make a distinctive sound around macaque babies:
>>>     "Around babies, females also make a call
>>>called a girney, a whining sound that apparently
>>>goes well with a grunt.
>>>
>>>     "Sounding like wheezing, puffing calliopes,
>>>females approach the mother or the baby.
>>>Although they look rather scary in their
>>>excitement, the noises apparently signal, 'I'm
>>>no threat. I wonÌt hurt the baby.' "
>>>
>>>     JL
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>>University Distinguished Professor
>>Department of English
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>Department of English
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