Big Onion (Re: The Onion on U.K. slang) (UNCLASSIFIED)
Barry A. Popik
Bapopik at AOL.COM
Wed Nov 21 20:12:22 UTC 2007
In a message dated 11/21/2007 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL writes:
how did you search the Brooklyn Eagle?
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The Brooklyn Eagle is searchable through 1901, as you know. The "Big Onion"
tour company states that the "Big Onion" nickname applied "long before New
York was called the Big Apple." This is not true, unsupported by any evidence at
all.
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Search for "Big Onion" with "New York" with "nickname." It's true, we only
have about 100 million digitized pages, and I'm sure everyone was talking about
something that's not written down anywhere. The Irish invented all this, but
they just never wrote it down.
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Thanks for the 1942 citation by Maurer, but it's definitely post-"Big
Apple"--even post the nation-wide phenomenon of 1937's "Big Apple" dance.
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The 1978 New York Times "Big Onion" citation is after Charles Gillett's
1970s "Big Apple" campaign. "Big Apple" was a popular, re-invented term in the
1970s. It's a wise remark about the onion bagel and nothing more.
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I'll have to add to my entry of three years ago, but I can't say that
there's any solid evidence at all of "big onion" use in these two, scattered,
definitely post- Big Apple cites.
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"Your website post says: 'The walking tour company is about the only place
you'll see "Big Onion.' ' Not so . . ."
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Very much so!
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