Another one bites the dust?
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Thu Sep 6 14:43:57 UTC 2007
At 10:19 AM -0400 9/6/07, Dennis R. Preston wrote:
>And the historical foundation for /ey/ for Latin "ae" plurals ain't
>so good either, but it's OK for Modern English I reckon.
>
>dInIs
I've always thought that if you take one clump of the classic
post-Passover breakfast Matzobrei (it's sort of Jewish French toast,
but better), you should be able to refer to it as a Matzobra. With
short /a/.
LH
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>>At 10:45 AM -0400 9/6/07, Lynne Murphy wrote:
>>>Both my Pilates teacher (New Zealander, I think) and my yoga teacher
>>>(English) ALWAYS say 'vertebrae', no matter how many they're talking about.
>>>E.g. 'Try to move each vertebrae on its own'.
>>>
>>>Lynne
>>
>>Maybe we're being (relatively) unfair, and they're really saying (or
>>thinking) "(one) vertebra" but pronouncing the last "a" /ey/ as in
>>"*a* priori" or "prima f*a*cie". That does involve lengthening it
>>and putting it through the vowel shift, but what the hay. The plural
>>"vertebrae" would then shift orthographically but be phonetically
>>invariant.
>>
>>LH
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>>>
>>>--On Wednesday, September 5, 2007 11:31 pm -0400 Wilson Gray
>>><hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Heard on CSI:
>>>>
>>>>[Holding up a bone]: "Looks like a human _vertebrae_."
>>>>
>>>>-Wilson
>>>>--
>>>>All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
>>>>come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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>>>> -Sam'l Clemens
>>>
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>>>
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>>>Senior Lecturer in Linguistics and English Language
>>>Arts B135
>>>University of Sussex
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