Runglish
Dennis Preston
preston at MSU.EDU
Fri Sep 14 01:02:20 UTC 2007
Good shot Wilson. I forgot such Russian items. (Although the /v/ [f]
is from another morpheme).
dInIs
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>How about [fstr] in _vstrecha_? Or do _biznesmeny_ prefer _miting_, nowadays?
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>Sineet more za bul'varom
>Kashtan nad gorodom tsvetet
>Nash Konstantin beret gitaru
>I tikhim golosom poet:
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>Ia vam ne skazhu za vsiu Odessu
>Vsia Odessa ochen' velika
>No i moldovanka i _peresyp_
>Obozhaiut Kostiu moriaka
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>Chto znachit _peresyp_? It's not in Smirnitskii.
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>-Wilson
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>On 9/13/07, Darya Kostina <tamarra at ngs.ru> wrote:
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>> Sure, Dennis, Ponglish or whatever you call it )
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>> It must be about the place of articulation: Mstislav
>> Kostruba (not quite Russian, by the way, though a Slavonic
>> name): here we go from the lips to alveolae quite
>> comfortably. And borsh is CC in pronunciation.
>> But [ndk] makes you shift back and forth.
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>> Historically, we sure have our awkward words. But slang is
>> not likely to construct something painstaking, save if the
>> comical effect is worth it.
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>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:36:22 EDT
>> RonButters at AOL.COM wrote:
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>> > In a message dated 9/13/07 9:17:53 AM, preston at MSU.EDU
>> >writes:
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>> >> Betcha can't get four. Even English speakers have /str/
>> >>(although
>> >> admittedly not /mst/).
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>> >> dInIs
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>> > Well, there is [borStS] 'beet soup'
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