Rosa/rowz@

[LanDi Liu]

Tom, honestly, why would you say something like that?

And WHY are you so opposed to taking any phonetics courses, or even
reading even any of the most basic phonetics textbooks?

WHY???

Randy

P.S.  And if you're really going to take an attitude like that, WHY do
you have to do it here, of all places?


 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>  Why don't you take some classes and let us know what your teacher says.  Remember, trust what your teacher says, not what you hear or think.
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>  And do you agree with MAM that all long vowels in American English are two-phthonged?  Why don't you give us your own voice files as I have done here with qlippits to demonstrate.  Or take a class and find out how.
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>  Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>  See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at authorhouse.com.
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>  > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:33:10 -0700
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>  > On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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>  >> I don't believe off-glides are part of diphthongs such as
>  >> for the long vowels. Off glides happen before some consonants and not
>  >> before others. To me all long vowels sound like one-phthong not two.
>  >> I'd be glad to hear words spoken in m-w.com that illustrate the
>  >> difference.
>  >
>  > Where are you located? Perhaps a phonetics class at your local university
>  > would help.
>  >
>  > I also remember some IPA training software from the 90s which would
>  > pronounce each sound alone and in context.
>  >
>  > Basically, the key is ear training.
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