Rosa/rowz@

[Tom Zurinskas]

What do you mean "Why would I say something like that?  Why would you say "why would I say something like that?"

I'm familiar enough with phonetics for my application.  I'm not a linguist, but anybody can gather much information from the internet on phonetics.

People that reply to questions of interest with "go read a book" are in my opinion abusive, supplying no anwer, offering nothing but derision.

Do you believe that all long vowels in USA English are diphthongs?

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at authorhouse.com.





> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:31:01 +0800
> From: strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: Rosa/rowz@
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> Poster: LanDi Liu
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> Tom, honestly, why would you say something like that?
>
> And WHY are you so opposed to taking any phonetics courses, or even
> reading even any of the most basic phonetics textbooks?
>
> WHY???
>
> Randy
>
> P.S. And if you're really going to take an attitude like that, WHY do
> you have to do it here, of all places?
>
>
> Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Tom Zurinskas  wrote:
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>> Why don't you take some classes and let us know what your teacher says. Remember, trust what your teacher says, not what you hear or think.
>>
>> And do you agree with MAM that all long vowels in American English are two-phthonged? Why don't you give us your own voice files as I have done here with qlippits to demonstrate. Or take a class and find out how.
>>
>>
>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>> See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at authorhouse.com.
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:33:10 -0700
>>> From: blukoff at ALVORD.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Rosa/rowz@
>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't believe off-glides are part of diphthongs such as
>>>> for the long vowels. Off glides happen before some consonants and not
>>>> before others. To me all long vowels sound like one-phthong not two.
>>>> I'd be glad to hear words spoken in m-w.com that illustrate the
>>>> difference.
>>>
>>> Where are you located? Perhaps a phonetics class at your local university
>>> would help.
>>>
>>> I also remember some IPA training software from the 90s which would
>>> pronounce each sound alone and in context.
>>>
>>> Basically, the key is ear training.
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