Rosa/rowz@

[Herb Stahlke]

Which variety of USA English?  And how are you defining diphthong?

Herb

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> What do you mean "Why would I say something like that?  Why would you say
> "why would I say something like that?"
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> I'm familiar enough with phonetics for my application.  I'm not a
> linguist, but anybody can gather much information from the internet on
> phonetics.
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> People that reply to questions of interest with "go read a book" are in my
> opinion abusive, supplying no anwer, offering nothing but derision.
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> Do you believe that all long vowels in USA English are diphthongs?
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> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:31:01 +0800
> > From: strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: Re: Rosa/rowz@
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> > Tom, honestly, why would you say something like that?
> >
> > And WHY are you so opposed to taking any phonetics courses, or even
> > reading even any of the most basic phonetics textbooks?
> >
> > WHY???
> >
> > Randy
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> > P.S. And if you're really going to take an attitude like that, WHY do
> > you have to do it here, of all places?
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> > Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Tom Zurinskas  wrote:
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> >> Why don't you take some classes and let us know what your teacher says.
> Remember, trust what your teacher says, not what you hear or think.
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> >> And do you agree with MAM that all long vowels in American English are
> two-phthonged? Why don't you give us your own voice files as I have done
> here with qlippits to demonstrate. Or take a class and find out how.
> >>
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> >> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> >> See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at
> authorhouse.com.
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> >>> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:33:10 -0700
> >>> From: blukoff at ALVORD.COM
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> >>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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> >>>> I don't believe off-glides are part of diphthongs such as
> >>>> for the long vowels. Off glides happen before some consonants and not
> >>>> before others. To me all long vowels sound like one-phthong not two.
> >>>> I'd be glad to hear words spoken in m-w.com that illustrate the
> >>>> difference.
> >>>
> >>> Where are you located? Perhaps a phonetics class at your local
> university
> >>> would help.
> >>>
> >>> I also remember some IPA training software from the 90s which would
> >>> pronounce each sound alone and in context.
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> >>> Basically, the key is ear training.
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