anise

[Charles Doyle]

My advice: Don't risk naming a child "Pennice."

--Charlie
_____________________________________________________________

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:19:39 -0400
>From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>Subject: Re: anise
>>
>At 12:53 PM -0400 8/19/08, Lynne Murphy wrote:
>>Maybe we should interpret 'standard' in a non-technical way in my claim below, but I've only heard it as "a NIECE" in the southeastern BrE that I hear, and have been mocked (a little) for saying something that sounds more like "anus".
>>
>>Lynne
>
>Is the pronunciation of "anus" different there too?  For me, it's only ['eyn at s], which doesn't sound enough like ['aen at s] to motivate even light mockery; it would be like teasing someone for being named >"Pennice".
>
>LH
>
>>
>>
>>
>>--On Monday, August 18, 2008 7:42 am -0400 Charles Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>The OED records only the one pronunciation--with the first syllable
>>>stressed!
>>>
>>>--Charlie
>>>_____________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>---- Original message ----
>>>>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:57:48 -0400
>>>>From: Lynne Murphy <m.l.murphy at SUSSEX.AC.UK>
>>>>Subject: Re: anise
>>>>
>>>>She's using the standard British pronunciation, but 'aniseed' is
>>>>pronounced the same as in AmE.
>>>>
>>>>Similarly the Frenchified pronunciation of 'endive' is the usual BrE
>>>>pronunciation (when they're not calling it 'chicory').
>>>>
>>>>Lynne
>>>
>>>>
>>>>--On Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:06 am -0400 Charles Doyle
>>>><cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>A couple of days ago on the Food Network, Rachael Ray, more than once,
>>>>>pronounced "anise" as [@ 'nis], a pronunciation registered in none of
>>>>>the several English dictionaries at hand.
>>>>>
>>>>>At first I supposed it was just a pretentious faux-French affection, as
>>>>>I used to assume "endive" as ['an div] is--though that one is in the
>>>>>dictionaries, and it does mimic the actual French pronunciation.  But
>>>>>maybe [@ 'nis] exemplifies the "Uranus" ['jUr @ n at s] syndrome--an
>>>>>attempt to keep low-minded liteners from thinking about anuses?
>>>>>
>>>>>--Charlie
>>>>>_____________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dr M Lynne Murphy
>>>>Senior Lecturer in Linguistics and English Language
>>>>Arts B135
>>>>University of Sussex
>>>>Brighton BN1 9QN
>>>>
>>>>phone: +44-(0)1273-678844
>>>>http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>>
>>
>>
>>Dr M Lynne Murphy
>>Senior Lecturer in Linguistics and English Language
>>Arts B135
>>University of Sussex
>>Brighton BN1 9QN
>>
>>phone: +44-(0)1273-678844
>>http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org

------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org