anise

[Lynne Murphy]

Larry--no, 'anus' isn't really said any differently--but if you say
something differently from/to/than how others say it, they'll find a reason
to mock it.

Cheers,
Lynne

--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:28 pm -0300 "David A. Daniel"
<dad at POKERWIZ.COM> wrote:

> Thing about names and pronunciations, when naming, you must also consider
> the short form. For example, if your last name is Hunt you daren't call
> your kid Michael, lest he be known as Mike.
> DAD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf
> Of Laurence Horn
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:57 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: anise
>
> ---
>
> At 1:56 PM -0400 8/19/08, Charles Doyle wrote:
>> My advice: Don't risk naming a child "Pennice."
>>
>> --Charlie
>
> *Now* you tell me.  It's ok, though, we just call him Dick.
>
> LH
>
>> _____________________________________________________________
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:19:39 -0400
>>> From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>>> Subject: Re: anise
>>>>
>>> At 12:53 PM -0400 8/19/08, Lynne Murphy wrote:
>>>> Maybe we should interpret 'standard' in a non-technical way in my
>>>> claim below, but I've only heard it as "a NIECE" in the
>>>> southeastern BrE that I hear, and have been mocked (a little) for
>>>> saying something that sounds more like "anus".
>>>>
>>>> Lynne
>>>
>>> Is the pronunciation of "anus" different there too?  For me, it's
>>> only ['eyn at s], which doesn't sound enough like ['aen at s] to motivate
>>> even light mockery; it would be like teasing someone for being
>>> named >"Pennice".
>>>
>>> LH
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --On Monday, August 18, 2008 7:42 am -0400 Charles Doyle
>>>> <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The OED records only the one pronunciation--with the first syllable
>>>>> stressed!
>>>>>
>>>>> --Charlie
>>>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:57:48 -0400
>>>>>> From: Lynne Murphy <m.l.murphy at SUSSEX.AC.UK>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: anise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's using the standard British pronunciation, but 'aniseed' is
>>>>>> pronounced the same as in AmE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Similarly the Frenchified pronunciation of 'endive' is the usual BrE
>>>>>> pronunciation (when they're not calling it 'chicory').
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynne
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --On Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:06 am -0400 Charles Doyle
>>>>>> <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A couple of days ago on the Food Network, Rachael Ray, more than
>>>>>>> once, pronounced "anise" as [@ 'nis], a pronunciation registered in
>>>>>>> none of the several English dictionaries at hand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At first I supposed it was just a pretentious faux-French affection,
> as
>>>>>>> I used to assume "endive" as ['an div] is--though that one is in the
>>>>>>> dictionaries, and it does mimic the actual French pronunciation.
>>>>>>> But maybe [@ 'nis] exemplifies the "Uranus" ['jUr @ n at s]
>>>>>>> syndrome--an attempt to keep low-minded liteners from thinking
>>>>>>> about anuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Charlie
>>>>>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr M Lynne Murphy
>>>>>> Senior Lecturer in Linguistics and English Language
>>>>>> Arts B135
>>>>>> University of Sussex
>>>>>> Brighton BN1 9QN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> phone: +44-(0)1273-678844
>>>>>> http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com
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University of Sussex
Brighton BN1 9QN

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