audacity - Chinglish

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Sat Aug 30 15:22:38 UTC 2008


Thanks Dave,  This worked.  I could copy the voicings of sing, singe, sin, scene from m-w.com using audacity.  In audacity I click on project then new stereo track.  Then it takes a quick move to click on the play button of m-w.com then on the record button of audacity.  Maybe I should reverse them.  Seems like subsequent copies of different words come out less in volume.  Don't understand that.

So with audacity these sounds can be cut out and played back for test purposes.  Subjects can listen to the vowels of sin, sing, scene (~i,~ee,~ee) and be asked to pick the one most different.  Also the vowels of sin, singe, sing (~i,~i,~ee).

To me it's easy to hear the difference in the sounds of letter "i" in sing and singe.  For "sing" it sounds more like ~ee in scene, but not as salient probably because the mouth has shapie the sound of g next.  Some say the "g" is supposed to be silent, but this speaker does say a slight ~g in "sing".

So next to figure out how to transfer this to praat to look at waveforms and get formant numbers.  Any hints.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:05:17 -0300
> From: dad at POKERWIZ.COM
> Subject: Re: Chinglish
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>
> ---------------------- Information from the mail header -----------------------
> Sender: American Dialect Society
> Poster: "David A. Daniel"
> Subject: Re: Chinglish
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 1. Open Audacity, set the source on Stereo Mixer
> 2. Open browser, go to m-w.com
> 3. Type in a word and go to it
> 4. Click on the little red speaker thing to get pronunciation
> 5. Start recording on Audacity
> 6. When the pronunciation box speaks, Audacity will record it.
> 7. You now have the file that you can play around with in Audacity, export
> as MP3 or other formats, whatever you like.
> DAD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Gordon, Matthew J.
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:49 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Chinglish
>
>
> I once heard it explained this way:
>> On a Mac you just click the sound icon which opens a new window to =
> play the
>> sound. Then you hold down 'control' and click the "click here to =
> listen with
>> default audio browser" link. This gives you the option to download the
>> linked file which is in wav format and is readable in Praat.
>
> Surely this is easily done on a pc too, right?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American Dialect Society on behalf of Tom Zurinskas
> Sent: Thu 8/28/2008 8:26 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Chinglish
> =20
> I can play 'em. How do I download them?
>
>
> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at =
> authorhouse.com.
>
>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:15:31 -0500
>> From: GordonMJ at MISSOURI.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Chinglish
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>
>
>>
>> You can also download the wav files directly from m-w.com
>>
>> On a Mac you just click the sound icon which opens a new window to =
> play the
>> sound. Then you hold down 'control' and click the "click here to =
> listen with
>> default audio browser" link. This gives you the option to download the
>> linked file which is in wav format and is readable in Praat.
>>
>>
>
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