"machine" 'car, automobile'

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jul 22 02:50:51 UTC 2008


On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> As Chuck Berry put it in 1958:
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> "Climb into my _machine_ and we will cruise on out"
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> -Wilson
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> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Arnold M. Zwicky
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>> from Wilson Gray back on 6 June:
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>>  >"Machine" for "automobile" is still hip in BE slang, as well as
>> "'chine," also used as a verb meaning, roughly, "drive like a maniac." <
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>> there's a possible subtlety here that i didn't comment on at the time:
>> the distinction between a word's having the meaning 'car,
>> automobile' (as in "my machine's parked in the driveway") and the
>> word's sometimes being used to refer to cars or automobiles (as in
>> "that's a mean machine you got there").  it isn't always easy to tell
>> how the word's being used.
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>> on another front, i checked out "machine" in a few sources: not in
>> DARE or in Smitherman, but  Majors, Juba to Jive (not the most
>> reliable of sources), does have an entry:
>>   (1950s-1960s) an automobile, one's car
>> citing p. 71 of David Claerbaut, Black Jargon in White America (1972).
>>
>> arnold
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