"machine" 'car, automobile'
Clai Rice
cxr1086 at LOUISIANA.EDU
Tue Jul 22 17:58:57 UTC 2008
<machin> is the standard Haitian Creole for "car".
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilson Gray [mailto:hwgray at GMAIL.COM]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: "machine" 'car, automobile'
>
> As Chuck Berry put it in 1958:
>
> "Climb into my _machine_ and we will cruise on out"
>
> -Wilson
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Arnold M. Zwicky
> <zwicky at csli.stanford.edu> wrote:
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> > Subject: "machine" 'car, automobile'
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> > from Wilson Gray back on 6 June:
> >
> > >"Machine" for "automobile" is still hip in BE slang, as well as
> > "'chine," also used as a verb meaning, roughly, "drive like
> a maniac."
> > <
> >
> > there's a possible subtlety here that i didn't comment on
> at the time:
> > the distinction between a word's having the meaning 'car,
> automobile'
> > (as in "my machine's parked in the driveway") and the
> word's sometimes
> > being used to refer to cars or automobiles (as in "that's a mean
> > machine you got there"). it isn't always easy to tell how
> the word's
> > being used.
> >
> > on another front, i checked out "machine" in a few sources: not in
> > DARE or in Smitherman, but Majors, Juba to Jive (not the most
> > reliable of sources), does have an entry:
> > (1950s-1960s) an automobile, one's car citing p. 71 of David
> > Claerbaut, Black Jargon in White America (1972).
> >
> > arnold
> >
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