I say Myanmar, you say Burma
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue May 6 22:01:24 UTC 2008
If they didn't have such a tin ear, they would have renamed the place
"Ukrainia," given fact that, in Ukrainian, there's no way to
distinguish between "Ukraine" and "The Ukraine." The "distinction" is
peculiar to English (and to various other articulated languages, of
course).
BTW, whatever happened to "La France," as in "Vive ..." and "... belle
...? The only dialect of French that I'm familiar with is _la
linguistique_, wherein "la France" seems never to appear.
-Wilson
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Mark Mandel <thnidu at gmail.com> wrote:
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> tOn Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:21 AM, David Borowitz <borowitz at stanford.edu> wrote:
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> > Wikipedia, as it often does, tells a good story about the various names of
> > Burma:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Burma
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> > Except for the fact that one of these transliterations is of recent origin
> > and has been seized by the ruling party as some sort of nationalistic
> > symbol, this seems a lot like plenty of other phonetic English
> > pronunciations of historic or sloppy transliterations. (Think of the foreign
> > policy impacts if Russia started getting mad at us for not saying /rasiya/.)
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> Not so far off: Post-USSR Ukraine made quite a point of not being
> "*the* Ukraine".
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