Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Thu Apr 23 20:10:08 UTC 2009


Actually the article says that's not correct.

"One debunked myth suggested the actual words were "You fish on your side, I fish on my side, and nobody fish in the middle."   It is believed the latter was a hoax believed to have been concocted by the late Larry Daly, the editor of The Webster Times."

Who new?

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
see truespel.com




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> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:36:12 -0400
> From: mckernan at LOCALNET.COM
> Subject: Re: Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
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> Subject: Re: Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
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> My father, who grew up in eastern Massachusetts (b.1924) often spoke
> of this lake, translating the name as:=A0 "You fish on your side of the
> lake, we fish on our side of the lake, nobody fish in the middle of the
> lake."=A0 Seems like it might be a more accurate translation than the
> seemingly literal one quoted below.
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> Michael McKernan
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> Benson, Arizona Quoting Tom Zurinskas :
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>> from
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>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5198455/Longest-p=
> lace-name-in-US-spelt-wrongly.html
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>> The longest place name in the United States, Lake
>> Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg.
>> By Sarah Knapton=A0 =A0 Last Updated: 12:10PM BST 22 Apr 2009
>>
>> The lake in Webster, Massachusetts - known as Webster Lake for short
>> - was always going to be a challenge for sign writers. But after
>> researching historical spelling combinations, the local newspaper the
>> Telegram & Gazette of Worcester said local Chamber of Commerce
>> officials agreed that some some signs at the lake were wrong.=A0 There
>> was an "o" at letter 20 where a "u" should have been, and an "h" at
>> letter 38 where an "n" should go.
>> The name comes from the language of the local Nipmuck tribe and
>> translates to "Englishmen at Manchaug at the fishing place at the
>> boundary although" and was applied in the 19th century when White
>> people built factories in the area.
>> The stretch of water has several alternative names is also shortened
>> to Lake Chaubunagungamaug to avoid the 45 letter tongue twister.
>> Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg, the full-length
>> version of the name, is the longest place name in the United States
>> and 6th longest in the world. Its 17 uses of "g" are the most
>> instances of any letter in a word. The name also contains 10
>> instances of the letter "a" (not including the "a" in "lake"), more
>> than any word in the English language.
>>
>> TZ =96 Note that there are three =93awe=94 vowels in there.=A0 Those
>> =93awe-droppers=94 (who have dropped the phoneme =93awe=94 and replace it=
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>> with =93ah=94) would not be saying this word right.=A0 But then again, wh=
> o
>> does.=A0 Probably only Nipmucks.
>> How would that be spelled phonetically?
>> Char-GOG-uh-gog---man-CHAW-guh-gog---chaw-BUN-uh-GUN-guh-mawg.
>> ~chaarggaagugaagmancchaugugaagchaubbunugungumaug.
>>
>>
>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>> see truespel.com
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