Eggcorn? "warn" > "worn"
Tom Zurinskas
truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Feb 9 14:55:50 UTC 2009
m-w.com has the same phonetic entry for both warn/worn. The spoken words when you click the icon are close enough to be the same phoneme.
I do take issue that this is the "awe" phoneme. I call it, with truespel, the ~or phoneme with the "o" pronounces as in "or more floor". The tongue does not drop back as far as "awe".
M-w.com
Main Entry:
warn \ˈwȯrn\
worn \ˈwȯrn\
It would be so much easier and simply to teach truespel to the Chinese than IPA.
Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
see truespel.com
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> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:46:15 +0800
> From: strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: Eggcorn? "warn"> "worn"
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> Poster: Randy Alexander
> Subject: Re: Eggcorn? "warn"> "worn"
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> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
>> "The only thing to do is to _worn_ you guys [away] from this [kind] of
>> low-end product."
>>
>>
>> This one probably is dialect-dependent. In my speech, "warn" and
>> "worn" don't fall together, though, e.g. "sense," "since," and "cents"
>> do.
>
> Interesting. I believe this is the most common and standard AmE
> pronunciation for both words, but I'd be interested in what ANAE (or
> any other dialect survey) says if anyone has access to that (if it
> even covers that).
>
> OED has [wÉ”Ën] (lengthened opened O) for both, and [wɔən] (open O
> followed by schwa) as an alternate pronunciation for worn, so it looks
> like in BrE they are homonyms for most people too.
>
> My father's wife (white, grew up in Cincinnati) once argued with me
> about the correct or most common pronunciation of "warn" (or war,
> ward, wart, warm, etc.). She said "warn" is [wɑɚn] (script A and
> right-hook schwa), rhyming with "barn", adding that newscasters say it
> that way. I told her no way. Later, she said she paid careful
> attention to newscasters saying those words and admitted to me that
> she was wrong (which was the first and only time she has ever done
> that).
>
> In my pronunciation classes I teach that "ar" preceded by "w" sounds
> [oÉš] (lower-case O and right-hook schwa).
>
> --
> Randy Alexander
> Jilin City, China
> My Manchu studies blog:
> http://www.bjshengr.com/manchu
>
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