last laugh on awe-dropping

[Mark Mandel]

Granted; I had forgotten about the value of a bad example and debate.

I won't be in it, though, for the sake of my time and my blood
pressure. And I maintain the value of my advice for any other listies
who don't want to participate in or watch such debate, whether they
are knowledgeable (see my reasons) or not (because they'll be imbibing
TZ's misinformation).

Mark Mandel



On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Matthew Gordon <gordonmj at missouri.edu> wrote:
> I agree with Mark's assessment but not with his advice. While TZ may not
> wish to learn anything about linguistics, there are other non-linguist
> readers of this list who may, and challenging TZ's misuse of linguistic
> terminology and his ignorance of American dialectology may help those
> readers.
>
>
> On 2/9/09 11:58 AM, "Mark Mandel" <thnidu at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> Getting back to the topic... Ron re-sent to me "using aol and the dsl
>> in the hotel" the Sunday message that I and several others received in
>> base64; I quote the relevant parts below for context.
>>
>> No, Ron, this guy has learned nothing whatsoever about standard
>> phonological terminology or any other part of language science, and he
>> never will. Not because he's stupid or malicious -- I don't think he
>> is -- but because he is willfully ignorant, and proud of it. I might
>> instead call him stubbornly naive. He posts here, but he ignores
>> anything anyone else says that doesn't fit his own conceptions. He has
>> been running his "Truespel" for many years and prides himself on never
>> having polluted his pure native-speaker awareness with any theory or
>> book-larnin'. (There, I've made my contempt for his attitude
>> explicit.) By now, I'm sure, he is too deeply psychologically invested
>> in it to admit that he could ever, possibly, be in any way wrong.
>>
>> I will only repeat the advice I have offered here many times since
>> shortly after his first appearances here: save yourself the trouble.
>> Killfile his posts, and do your best to ignore his rubbish when other
>> listmembers make the mistake of replying to him.
>>
>> Mark Mandel

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