This trend must stop!

Sat Feb 14 00:26:29 UTC 2009

Not to mention the dropping of final -e!  My god, how will we be able to tell a strong from a weak adjective?

Waes hael,
Paul

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From: ronbutters at AOL.COM
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:22 pm
Subject: This trend must stop!

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> My yes. If we allow this, pretty soon people will also think it is
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> nounce "laugh" as [laef] and not [lax]; next, they will utter
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> From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
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> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] Eggcorn? "warn" > "worn"
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:30:17 -0600
> > From: slafaive at GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: Re: Eggcorn? "warn"> "worn"
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> >>Basically folks are dropping out the "awe" phoneme altogether. This
> > deserves a name. Phoneme dropping sounds about right.
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> > I really wish you would listen to the people on this list who
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> > are MERGING. Hence, the LOW-BACK MERGER.
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> > On 2/11/09, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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> >> The word "merger" doesn't get it for me. To say there is a
> "card/cord">> merger is not clear. Are both words said as "card"
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> >> phoneme inbetween the two or a combination of all the above?
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> >> The cot/caught merger to me means both words are said as cot.
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> >> cases I have heard "on" said as ~aun which is the reverse.
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> >> Better said, the caught-to-cot merger. Then one knows what is going
> >> on. Basically folks are dropping out the "awe" phoneme
> altogether. This
> >> deserves a name. Phoneme dropping sounds about right.
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> >> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
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> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:45:09 -0500
> >>> From: db.list at PMPKN.NET
> >>> Subject: Re: Eggcorn? "warn"> "worn"
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> >>>> I think I've mentioned here a while back that
> >>>> John Lawler informed me 40 years ago that in Utah
> >>>> one lays a fort in the fart. I found it hard to
> >>>> believe, but evidently it's true for at least
> >>>> some Utahns.
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> >>> Most of what i've looked at (my own work and others',
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> >>> unpublished) on the Utahn card-cord merger that relies on acoustic
> >>> analysis finds that it's a variable merger of {cord} into
> {card}, not a
> >>> reversal.
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> >>> Complicating this is that the {cored} class seems to not
> participate in
> >>> the merger. Looking more intensely into that is next on my agenda,
> >>> starting this summer.
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> >>> David Bowie University of Central Florida
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