Surprise

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Feb 17 16:23:30 UTC 2009


I rarely pronounce the first r in "surprise," but I can't imagine eliding it
in "surmise" (now that I try, it actually seems difficult!).

You may not believe this, but...when I was four or five I began to notice
that most New Yorkers, including my  family, were what I would now call
"non-rhotic" - quite different from most of the old-movie cowboys I was
watching every afternoon on Channel 13.

I deliberately set out to get rhotic so that, when I grew up and went
West, I'd fit right in with Roy and the other punchers.  And you know
what? My dream partly came true!  I rarely miss an r !

Coincidence? Or...?

JL
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM, <ronbutters at aol.com> wrote:

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> This is variable in my speech, though the /r/ tends to be realized only in
> nonallegro speech. I expect this is true of most rhotic dialects. I don't
> THINK that I have deletion in "surmise"--but I am wary of self-reports
> (maybe it gets weakened variably in allegro speech).
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> Other such words: surreal ...
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> 1. Does anyone with a rhotic dialect rhoticize the first "r" in
> "surprise" (I don't).
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> 2. Does anyone know of any other words that in your rhotic dialect
> that have an unrhoticized postvocalic "r"?
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> --
> Randy Alexander
> Jilin City, China
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